July 17th, 2005
Al's Place Online
Special Guest: Chris DeFilippis author of "Foreknowledge"
3 pm EST
connected: ezChat version 0.54
alsplacebartender:: hey helen
alsplacebartender:: how are you?
alsplacebartender:: geez where is everybody
leaper1:: not too bad, aside from the asthma and the hayfever
leaper1:: damon has been having probs
leaper1:: he is trying to get on via his sisters pc
leaper1:: i will have to duck out now im afraid, but shd be back in 20 mins
leaper1:: u know wot it like here
alsplacebartender:: Hi Chris!
Dman176:: I think I got this working now
alsplacebartender:: Well.... it looks like some people either forgot or
couldn't get into the chat room.
alsplacebartender:: Ezboard had a crash a few weeks ago and things
haven't been the same
Dman176:: I'm having a lot of problems myself at the moment, Brian
Dman176:: I'm using my sister's broken PC right now
Dman176:: Mac doesn't seem to be compatible with this anymore
alsplacebartender:: Chris, I don't want to waste any of your time, so can we
reschedule this for another date when I get my own chat software set up
and it'll be more stable for everyone?
ChrisDeFilippis:: Things are working okay on this end
Dman176:: Helen should be online at MSN and yahoo, you could nudge her
Dman176:: anyway, hello there,Chris, I'm Damon
alsplacebartender:: she was here but left a moment ago
ChrisDeFilippis:: It's fine with me if you want to reschedule, but I think the
lack of participants might have more to do with the fact the Foreknowledge
came out so long ago. Hello Damon. Nice to meet you
Dman176:: if you want to do that, Brian, it would be fine, I guess... I was
looking forward to chatting with Chris
alsplacebartender:: No, I know a lot of people said they were coming and
were very interested. Loved the book myself
ChrisDeFilippis:: We can still chat if you'd like. I set the time aside.
Dman176:: oh, I don't know, a lot of us seem to remember that particular
ChrisDeFilippis:: Glad to hear you loved the book
alsplacebartender:: I think Damon is writing a story partly based on it?
Dman176:: Helen is around, so she might be going back anf forth at home
Dman176:: she asked me to give her a nudge when the time came, but this
computer doesn't have Yahoo or MSN installed anymore
ChrisDeFilippis:: What do you remember? I was actually looking forward to
asking a lot of questions myself because the book came out with very little
comment from the fan community and I'd always wondered how it had been
Dman176:: so, if you could do it, Brian, she'll probably try and come
back... she was having some of the same problems that I was having,
since we both can only use Safari
alsplacebartender:: she'll be here in a few
Dman176:: I don't remember every single detail, of course, it WAS a long
time ago when I read the book, lol
ChrisDeFilippis:: me neither
alsplacebartender:: ok Chris.... the mud-wrestling angle... how did that
come about? lol
Dman176:: but I still have it... I was actually going to re-read it a few weeks
ago, but didn't have the itme
ChrisDeFilippis:: Mud wrestling: Sam always has to have a somewhat
ludicrous Leap in. What could be more rediculous than that?
ChrisDeFilippis:: You'll see that I'm a horrible speller
alsplacebartender:: ha! but it was fun. I liked that you had Sammy-Jo Fuller
in the story
ChrisDeFilippis:: I was also trying to catch the attention of the series editor
Dman176:: yeah, I liked the concept behind the story, that they had to
prevent a time paradox
alsplacebartender:: How did you get the book published? How did you go
Als Handlink joined
Dman176:: I wish they had explored that more in the series
ChrisDeFilippis:: Sammy Jo was always in my mind as a character. She
was absolutely necessary to the polt resolution
Dman176:: Hi, Tom
ChrisDeFilippis:: make that PLOT resolution. grrr...
Als Handlink:: Hey Damon
Als Handlink:: Hey all
ChrisDeFilippis:: Getting the book published:
ChrisDeFilippis:: I wrote Ginjer Buchanan a proposal for a different QL story
based on a TV script I had written while in college
Dman176:: Ah, Jennie, you made it
ChrisDeFilippis:: She didn't like that, but she liked my writing enough to
request something else.
#McDuck:: :) Yeah....I had to finish Ch 13 of Harry Potter first. <g>
ChrisDeFilippis:: I'm no match against JK...
Als Handlink:: I was supposed to get that on Saturday through Amazon
and they didn't send it yet
alsplacebartender:: lol Chris
#McDuck:: heh heh
Als Handlink:: How is it so far
#McDuck:: Ah, but I chose coming here over proceeding to Ch 14
Dman176:: oh, I don't know about that... my sister thinks Rowling is a
ChrisDeFilippis:: Thanks for tearing yourself away, Jennie
#McDuck:: Very good....a bit different than the last, esp with how it starts.
Lot of unanswered questions
#McDuck:: you're welcome, Chris. <g>
Als Handlink:: Has she ever written anything besides HP
Dman176:: don't think so, Tom
#McDuck:: HP was her first publication
ChrisDeFilippis:: I'm waiting for the new George RR Martin myself.
ChrisDeFilippis:: Rowling has only done the Potter books
Als Handlink:: I just finished the new Lincoln Rhyme Novel by Jeffrey
Dman176:: oh, and yes, Brian, to answer the question earlier, my VS idea
is partially inspired by Foreknowledge
alsplacebartender:: I was skimming to refresh my memory, but you had Al
leap with Samantha being the observer to fix a broken timeline... that was a
Dman176:: not sure how much about it I should say here though... although
I believe Jennie and Tom know the details
Als Handlink:: I don't have Foreknowledge. Is it still in print
Als Handlink:: hehehehehehe
ChrisDeFilippis:: Thanks. And it's nice to actually have inspired someone.
I'd like to know at least a little bit about it if you wouldn't mind
#McDuck:: If you can't find it, Tom, I've seen just about all the QL novels at
my local used bookstore
#McDuck:: Plus there's always eBay <g>
Dman176:: well... it's actually a series of stories, I'm not even going to write
them all... do you know about the Virtual Seasons?
ChrisDeFilippis:: Really? I never see them anywhere. And I look, believe
Dman176:: the books are hard to find now unfortunately
ChrisDeFilippis:: I've seen the Virtual Seasons section of this site, but
haven't had time yet to check them out
alsplacebartender:: I see them off and on... various older bookstores have a
copy or two here or there.
Dman176:: I always wondered why they stopped the book series... not
enough people buying them?
Dman176:: that's a shame
#McDuck:: Pity. Some were really good. Yours was one of the ones I count
in that, Chris.
alsplacebartender:: the die-hard fans were buying them back then, but your
casual reader really didn't give them much of a look
ChrisDeFilippis:: Couple that with the fact that QL was no longer being
seen on the air ANYWHEWRE and you had a little hope for continuation
#McDuck:: and the fanbase wasn't as huge as Star Trek
Dman176:: so do I, Chris... yours and Elizabeth Storm's were probably the
ChrisDeFilippis:: Thanks. Nice to mentioned in the same sentence with
Elizabeth; she's the all time fan favorite. And a very nice woman
alsplacebartender:: I liked the book series a lot, especially the writers who
kept with the cannon of the show. You did a great job with that one, Chris.
alsplacebartender:: have you met Elizabeth?
#McDuck:: I agree, Liz struck me as a very sweet person.
ChrisDeFilippis:: It was one of my main aims. As nasty as this sounds, I
hated most of the books in the series because none of them ever jived very
well with the TV show.
Als Handlink:: I have 2 copies of QL: The Novel, Also Independence, The
Begining, Prelude, The Wall, Knights of the Morningstar, Mirrors Edge, and
Too Close for Comfort
#McDuck:: Doesn't sound nasty to me, Chris.
#McDuck:: Sounds truthful
ChrisDeFilippis:: I met Elizabeth at Eastleap in 1995 I think. Wonderfully
Dman176:: I think a lot of fans would agree with you, Chris
alsplacebartender:: yeah, a lot of the books had Sam's mind leaping
instead of body.... just didn't sit well
Dman176:: the earlier novels weren't all that great
#McDuck:: There was one that was just a retelling of the Star Trek episode
where Kirk split into two.
ChrisDeFilippis:: I actually played up on the whole mind/body controversy
in a scene at the end of FOREKNOWLEDGE
ChrisDeFilippis:: And I must admit *gulp* that I didn't totally hate Double or
#McDuck:: Only it was Sam instead of Kirk. I actually tossed that one
across the room when I finished it.
Dman176:: there was a very interesting VS story called "Cross Currents"
that played around with the whole body/mind thing
#McDuck:: <---treats her books as treasures. If that's any indication of what
I thought about that one.
ChrisDeFilippis:: I had that reaction to Mirror's Edge
Dman176:: the woman died in the Waiting Room and when am leaped, he
was in her physical body while in the Waiting Room
ChrisDeFilippis:: Absolutely ponderous
Dman176:: home, but yet not home
#McDuck:: I wasn't crazy about that one either, Chris
#McDuck:: Hi Helen
Als Handlink:: I'm halfway through Mirrors Edge
leaper1:: hi all
ChrisDeFilippis:: I'm sorry you still have that much more to suffer through
Als Handlink:: lol
Dman176:: sorry, Helen... MSN and Yahoo aren't on this computer
Dman176:: but I'm not having any problems anymore
leaper1:: sok dman
Als Handlink:: I have to read something till I have HP and the Half Blood
ChrisDeFilippis:: Thanks to all for joining
leaper1:: Pleasure to meet u mr De Fillippis
ChrisDeFilippis:: That's my dad. Call me Chris
leaper1:: my daughter is on p424 of HP & HBP
Dman176:: anyway, Chris, the VS is currently on summer hiatus, going
into its 12th season... I introduced a character about a year and a half ago
named Dr. Connors, who became what I dubbed a "Rogue Leaper"...
neither good nor evil
ChrisDeFilippis:: I love rogue characters!
Dman176: he's out there somewhere, trying to restore all of the changes
that Sam and the Evil leapers have made
ChrisDeFilippis:: Why Sam's changes?
leaper1:: 'played' by david duchovny yeh?
ChrisDeFilippis:: Is he a purist?
#McDuck:: Why don't yu have yours yet Tom?
Dman176:: he's like an anti-time travel time-rtraveler
leaper1:: have u read it yet Jen?
ChrisDeFilippis:: Must make for many sleepless nights...
leaper1: oh 4 sure
#McDuck: I finished Ch 13 before logging in Helen
leaper1: dont tell me
leaper1: i dont get my hands on it till becky has finished
Dman176: thinks Sam is "playing God"
#McDuck: Don't worry. I haven't read any articles about the
sales/parties/etc b/c I don't want to be spoiled on ANYTHING.
ChrisDeFilippis: FACT: I have not read one word of Harry Potter.
ChrisDeFilippis: Any book ever
leaper1: chacun a son gout
#McDuck: False....you've seen the titles. <wg>
leaper1: good one jen
ChrisDeFilippis: Got me
Dman176: I look at it like this: he is what Sam would be if he wasn't
brought up to beleive in God or Time or Fate or Whatever
Als Handlink: There are some very good writers in TVS. And I am am going
to write some stories for season 12
#McDuck: Eleiece and I just finished a 4-parter for it.
leaper1: there are some great writers in TVS
ChrisDeFilippis: i always thought Sam was more forced to accept the role
Dman176: part of it also has to do with a recurring nightmare he's had
since he was a child, but that's a small part of it
ChrisDeFilippis: Not like he had much chioce
Als Handlink: I stand coerrected Helen
#McDuck: I've always thought Sam was raised in it, but didn't necessarily
follow it when he grew up.
#McDuck: Foundation rather than active current faith
ChrisDeFilippis: That's reasonable.
Dman176: he's convinced that Sam is going to be the cause of a great
cataclysm and he thinks it's because of his time-traveling
leaper1: i think leaping re awoke his faith
leaper1: it did mine!
ChrisDeFilippis: I think Al is the one who benefited from reawoken faith
more than Sam
Dman176: anyway, I haven't done much with it yet, because there were
some other great stories that some people needed to tell
Dman176: so, I held off on it for a little while
ChrisDeFilippis: My advice: Don'thold off on writing anything ever. Just do it
and sort it out in the end.
leaper1: good advice
Dman176: it's like on TV, the editor, MJ, tries to coordinate all of the
stories from one week ot the next for continuity and what have you
leaper1: and balance
Dman176: so, it's actually working out perfectly now
alsplacebartender: you said you had sent in a television script you had
written first but it was rejected... do you still have the script?
Dman176: wish she could be here now, but she's coming back from
vacation today, I beleive
leaper1: oh yeh, her cruise
ChrisDeFilippis: Sure do. It was called PARADOX and I tried to
unsuccessfully sell copies at the last Eastleap convention
#McDuck: Today or Monday. Dennis delayed departure by a day
Dman176: I'm already intrigued by that title, lol
Als Handlink: Me too
ChrisDeFilippis: Hurricanes... Harry Potter... I don't stand a chance!
Dman176: I bet I know what Brian will ask next :p
alsplacebartender: I'd put it on the website if you want :) I know people
who'd love to read that....
alsplacebartender: damon knows me so well
#McDuck: LOL :raises hand: I would
leaper1: I was telling Damon earlier, I feel like I'm a real writer now, cos I
got some fanmail!
Dman176: Helen writes for VS too, btw, Chris ;)
leaper1: *raises hand: me too
Als Handlink: You knew that was coming. I would deffenatly read it
ChrisDeFilippis: I had just seen "Raped" and it was so great that it
me to sit my butt down and hammer out my own episode.
Dman176: she's very good
#McDuck: I think everyone in here has (or will be)
Dman176: Jennie wil be too
leaper1: Jennie is an ace writer
Als Handlink: I already submitted my first story
#McDuck: okay, now *I'm* blushing, Helen <g>
leaper1: have u guys read Beth yet?
Dman176: she's already written a great story for Brian's Starbright prequel
series... I've told her how much I feel I pale in comparison to her
ChrisDeFilippis: It's great to hear that everyone here is doing so much to
keep Leap alive
leaper1: if not, get to it!
#McDuck: Shame Ann Marie isn't here so we can make HER blush too.
Dman176: ok, Helen
#McDuck: Thanks, Damon. :)
Dman176: you're welcome :)
#McDuck: The one MJ's airing now on VS (Stardust) I was toying with
submitting to Berkeley, but they killed the novel program before I was near
finished with it.
ChrisDeFilippis: Bad news for Brian. I only have hard copies of Paradox.
You'd have to scan it in and format it yourself.
alsplacebartender: Ann Marie.... Jennie that is the name of a character in
#McDuck: I know....it was cause of much vexation. I was visiting Ann Marie
when the novel came out
#McDuck: She was reading it
Dman176: yeah, MJ had written a novel around the time they canned th
Als Handlink: I am thouroghly enjoying Stardust
ChrisDeFilippis: Did she like sharing a name with that raving loony?
alsplacebartender: I could do that Chris.... I did it with several actual
scripts, a couple that were never produced
#McDuck: Ann Marie is a PHENOMENAL writer, btw, too
#McDuck: Do I have to answer that, Chris? At least you hyphenated the
ChrisDeFilippis: I always felt the novel program suffered from lack of
interest, both internally and externally.
#McDuck: btw, she's on the West Coast, but she may drop by later. She's
probably just getting out of church now
ChrisDeFilippis: Did she hate the character or the book as a whole. Be
honest> I can take it.
#McDuck: No, she, like me, rates it as one of the better novels.
ChrisDeFilippis: Glad to hear it.
#McDuck: We're both Al-coholics, though, so I have to be honest that Liz's
are our favorites. <g>
Als Handlink: I really want to read it now
Dman176: speaking of raving loonies, lol, my idea is going to start
branching off to a new character who will basically be causing chaos in the
timeline due to something Connors accidentally sets in motion... don't want
to reveal too much to people, unless I've told all of you already
ChrisDeFilippis: As i said before, it's just an honer to mentioned in the
same breath with Liz
#McDuck: Thank you, Tom...just saw your comment above. :)
Dman176: like in Foreknowledge, someone will have to leap back and try
and stop her while Sam is off doing his own thing
ChrisDeFilippis: Sammy Jo?
Dman176: um... maybe
Als Handlink: I am actually keeping up with it on a week to week basis.
Ask Damon, when Season 11 ended, I was only on like the 11 13 or
something like that
#McDuck: :) I'm honored.
Dman176: like I said, don't want to say too much, but my idea was to give
MJ something very different than what we've all been use dto
#McDuck: And I'm just glad that MJ went on vacation after Chapter Three
and NOT Chapter Two
Dman176: I like to shake things up in the types of things I write... give
people the unexpected
#McDuck: I think I would have to go into hiding otherwise
Als Handlink: Yeah, three was a real nailbiter
Als Handlink: I like shaking things up too.
Dman176: if you'd like, I could e-mail the concept to you, Chris... I'd be
honored to get an opinion from someone who's been published :)
Als Handlink: Shh. I read the third one in work while I had a student
Dman176: if you had the time, that is
Dman176: if not, I understand
Dman176: hey, I had to ask ;)
ChrisDeFilippis: I'd be happy to look at it, but just because I manged to
land a slot in the novel program doesn't make my opinion any more valid,
especially considering some of the novels that were released. You all seem
to have a great handle on your interpretations of the show and the
directions you'd like to see the characters go in.
Dman176: or, I could have Brian forward it
Dman176: I'd appreciate that, Chris :)
ChrisDeFilippis: Get it to me however you'd like.
ChrisDeFilippis: So who has actually read Foreknowledge here?
Als Handlink: Yeah, you'll be blown away Chris
leaper1: i have read it, but must confess it was a while ago
#McDuck: I have....it has been a while though
Dman176: so, that was going to be another question I wanted to ask you...
what do you suggest for aspiring writers like myself, Jennie, MJ, Helen,
etc. to get noticed by a publisher? Where to go, etc.?
alsplacebartender: I have.... it's been a handful of years and I have been
skimming it the last day or so :)
Dman176: literary agents, that kind of stuff
leaper1: hey, i did get a letter from Ginjer Buchanan,remember Damon
leaper1: and it wasnt a total rejection!
#McDuck: Thanks, Damon. <g> (Writer with a day job thanks to first
rejection letter, as my best friend said)
leaper1: i was considered, but lost out in the end to Loch Ness Leap
Dman176: I meant in general, not just for QL :)
#McDuck: Yeah, I'm working on a Christian romance novel, for instance.
leaper1: im just showing off! :P
Dman176: I know :p
Als Handlink: I wish I had. I need to find a copy though
Als Handlink: Lochness Leap, That's one I need too
ChrisDeFilippis: I wish I knew what to tell you. Foreknowledge was almost
a fluke, becasue Ginjer (as some of you have already had experience with)
was unusually open to working with new writers. And I knew QL cold. The
book just pour out of me with a ready-made place to pitch it.
#McDuck: Tom, try eBay and if yuo can't find anything, let me know and I'll see if
my used bookstore has it still
ChrisDeFilippis: I've not ewxactly been buring up the charts with followup
work. To date, I have published no other fiction professionally.
leaper1: i got the feeling Search and Rescue was not originally written as
#McDuck: Or Half.com, or Amazon's used sales
ChrisDeFilippis: But I have not been really trying, either.
Als Handlink: Will do, Thanks
leaper1: That it was a story that had been rejected and was hastily
rewritten as Ql to get in the niche
Dman176: I know that Pocket Books has an annual contest every year or
their Star Trek: Strange New Worlds anthologies
Dman176: I've been contemplating trying to write a short story for that, but
I'm not good with all that terminology
ChrisDeFilippis: But Foreknowledge is enough to get agents interested in
seeing other stuff; I'm finally working on new fiction and hope to sell
something again soon.
leaper1: technobable is easy damon
#McDuck: technobabble <g>
#McDuck: Do you have an agent, Chris?
leaper1: fingers crossed for u chris
ChrisDeFilippis: SNW can be a stepping stone. I know an author who just
got a story published on SCI Fiction (Datlow editor) who got her start in the
ChrisDeFilippis: I HAD an agent shortly after FOREKNOWLEDGE was
published. But the relationship was going nowhere and I ended it.
4 pm EST
Dman176: I might as well bring
it up here... I've recently been wondering if we could all somehow get Universal to sign
off on converting TVS and the related virtual series into book anthologies... get QL
ChrisDeFilippis: I have since made other ageny contacts, but will not waste
their time until I have some finished work I consider ready to sell.
Dman176: I always though it was a shame that they ended the books
leaper1: same here
leaper1: especially since my follow up was about to be considered for one!
ChrisDeFilippis: Will never happen. If the book series had been viable
commercially, Berkeley never would have given up the option.
Als Handlink: I have half a story written that I want to submit to L. Ron
Hubbards's Writers of the Future
Dman176: there is so much "fanfiction" and audio productions out there
that is so much better than the "professional" stuff you see being made
TV and movies these days
ChrisDeFilippis: You always have to consider the bottom line. It's all that
leaper1: they would have sold better if they'd had more writers like u chris,
and the vs writers
leaper1: like damon sed
Dman176: makes me want to start my own company sometimes :p
leaper1: go for it damon!
ChrisDeFilippis: I don't know about that. Most of the tie-in series rely on
built in fan bases to sustain them. The writers are secondary to name
recognition. I just don't think QL has the kind of pull that we all know it
leaper1: it worked for the guys at motown!
Dman176: need money, unfortunately... something of which I have very little
leaper1: i hear that!
#McDuck: Another part of the problem was some booksellers organized
them alphabetically rather than grouped them as a series at first
ChrisDeFilippis: Plus, Universal and Don own the rights, so the ball is in
#McDuck: alpha by author, I should say
Dman176: perhaps if Universal ever gets off their butts and makes that new
spinoff/ series, QL will be popular again
leaper1: did Don have to approve the 'official' books?
leaper1: or did he give creative control to Ginjer
ChrisDeFilippis: I don't know. They were always grouped as a series here in
Long Island bookstores.
Dman176: oh, you're an Islander, Chris? Wherabouts?
#McDuck: You know, I really think part of the reason for the lack of sales is
that QL was such a varied show. You had a lot of people who enjoyed it
who wouldn't be the type to want to necessarily read stories about it---or
even be aware that there was such a thing
Dman176: I'm in Queens
Als Handlink: If Don Bellsarrio ever read TVS, I'm sure he would agree. I
mean, TVS has strived to stay true to the show\
#McDuck: At first, they were alpha by author, round here, then they
became grouped as a series
ChrisDeFilippis: Don did NOT have to approve the official books. But
Universal DID. Ginjer had complete control of choosing the books, then she
and the authors whould have to work with Universal if they had any
ChrisDeFilippis: I'm in Suffolk
leaper1: shame, if Don had decided, the less good stories might not have
got out there
Dman176: what part of Suffolk?
ChrisDeFilippis: Don was too busy with JAG at that point to care much
about the QL books.
leaper1: guess so
Als Handlink: I never did care for The Wall
#McDuck: I thought it an interesting premise, but it was definitey
ChrisDeFilippis: I sent him a copy of Foreknowledge when it came out just
to thank him for the inspiration. He sent me a nice letter back. I sent a
copy to Deborah too.
Dman176: yeah, Ashley McConnell's weren't that great... she had a weird
idea of how QL worked
leaper1: are we going to get into that debate?
leaper1: I gave a copy of one of my stories to Dean recently
leaper1: doubt if he'll read it though
leaper1: dont suppose I'll ever know
ChrisDeFilippis: to be fair, Ashley was writing before we'd seen the Waiting
Room on TV and had to make a lot of stuff up that later turned out to be
presented differently on TV.
Dman176: oh for sure, I realize that too
ChrisDeFilippis: She decided to stick with the vision she created.
Dman176: the comics were similar too
ChrisDeFilippis: Even after the fact.
Als Handlink: I didn't like how she always had just Sam's mind leap. I know
she wrote her first before it was determined with unreasonable doubt that it was
Sam's body leaping, but it still annoys me
leaper1: consistency probably best at that stage
leaper1: i always take the stand that it could be body or mind, depending
on the demands of the leap
Dman176: think she even said it in one of her prefaces... consider it an
ChrisDeFilippis: Again, I touched on the whole mind/body debate at the end
of Foreknowledge, just to annoy fans.
leaper1: not annoy
leaper1: stimulate debate
ChrisDeFilippis: No, annoy.
Als Handlink: lol
alsplacebartender: lol @ chris
Dman176: I played around with the inconsistencies in my first VS story
leaper1: i found a way of explaining Ziggy's 'sex change' too
Als Handlink: I never thought of it as just his mind leaping.
Dman176: I had Sam "re-leap" back to the first episode... he was caught
a time-loop type thing and when he saw the IC door open for the first time,
it was invisible like in the pilot
ChrisDeFilippis: Nevermind that Al was having the debate with Sammy-Jo,
perhaps the most definitive evidence of body leaping.
Dman176: Sam wondered, 'Why the heck is an invisible door sliding open
horizontally, when it shoukd be a white door opening vertically?'
ChrisDeFilippis: Three words: special effects budget
Dman176: oh yeah, I know that :p
Dman176: but I had fun playing around with it
ChrisDeFilippis: what does roflmao mean?
leaper1: we dont have that probs with stories
leaper1: roll on floor laughing me a** off
Dman176: there are some people on the various messageboards who
analyze every little detail in a sci-fi series
#McDuck: I personally prefer rotflmbo
Dman176: that was my way of saying, "Get over it!" :p
ChrisDeFilippis: Don never seemed bothered by details.
leaper1: we sometimes say why should we worry when don didnt
ChrisDeFilippis: Well, you do worry when you're writing a book.
ChrisDeFilippis: And look at Voyager and Enterprise. Bad thing CAN
happen when you ignore canon
Dman176: yeah... although I did like the Temporal Cold War concept... I
assumed they were using that to try to explain some inconsistencies... it
worked with DC Comics 20 years ago
ChrisDeFilippis: Espeically a tie-in property, you have an obligation to the
hardcore fans you know are your primary readers to get your facts straight.
leaper1: absotively posilutely
ChrisDeFilippis: That's why many if not most of the books were lacking in my
Dman176: plus the fact, I have a huge epic storyline in mind that's very similar to
that that I'd like to try and write someday
leaper1: i couldnt agree more
Dman176: it will take me years to write it though
ChrisDeFilippis: QL or Trek?
Dman176: my own creation
Dman176: has a little bit of a lot of things in it though
ChrisDeFilippis: More power to you. When it's a huge television
phenominon, will you accept my submissions?
leaper1: say yes damon
Dman176: I'm actually hoping it will become the next Star Wars... it's a
Dman176: lol, yes
Dman176: I DO have a TV series in mind though... who knows ;)
ChrisDeFilippis: And Star Wars was the next Lord of the Rings
ChrisDeFilippis: And so it goes
Dman176: the problem is trying to make them different enough so that
people don't think you're ripping off other ideas
ChrisDeFilippis: What thing specifiaclly did you all like and dislike about the
books in general?
#McDuck: As Shakespeare said, there is nothing new under the sun. All
you can do is present it in your own unique way
leaper1: which is why Don wouldnt read the fanfic
Dman176: because there really are no more oriignal ideas left
#McDuck: That last was my addition of course. <g>
ChrisDeFilippis: And he opens himself up to litigation if he does.
#McDuck: I liked being able to get inside their heads.
ChrisDeFilippis: Again, remember the bottom line.
Dman176: oh yeah, I understand completely why he doesn't read any of it
#McDuck: Which was sometimes a good thing if the author was good, and
a bad thing if the author wasn't
#McDuck: Or if the author wasn't familiar truly with a character.
Dman176: it would be stupid for any producer to read unsolicited material
ChrisDeFilippis: That's what meant about an obligation to detail.
leaper1: so chris, if they ever get to make the rumoured spin off series,
would you submit for that?
ChrisDeFilippis: I'd need an agent first, but are you f-ing kidding me?
Dman176: I think we ALL would try
leaper1: hi joy
ChrisDeFilippis: In fact, I hope they take Foreknowlege and turn it into an
episode. I wouldn't get any $$$$ from it, but hey.
#McDuck: Hey Joy
#McDuck: How was Wonka?
Dman176: I'm just hoping it's not a stupid explanation
Dman176: hi, Joy
Dman176: glad you could make it
TinaAlsGirl5: Hello Mr. DeFilippis
leaper1: thats his dad!
ChrisDeFilippis: Hi. Call me Chris
TinaAlsGirl5: Oh, okay... Chris... :)
ChrisDeFilippis: Heard Wonka sucked
TinaAlsGirl5: I loved it
TinaAlsGirl5: Seen it three times now
Dman176: I think my sister liked it too, Joy... she said her friend asked her
the other night if she wanted to "Wonka" with her :p
Dman176: "I think we should Wonka... what do you think,Devin?"
TinaAlsGirl5: My sister never seeks out multiple viewings of a movie, but
she actually *wants* to see Wonka again
ChrisDeFilippis: Can't be any worse tha Fantastic Four
#McDuck: Sign of a good flick. I want to catch it soon.
TinaAlsGirl5: So, have I missed much?
Dman176: I saw F4 last night... it was okay... not as good as Batman
leaper1: i'm all for obligation to detail chris - for one of my vs stories i
created 3 page back stories for characters who died in the first paragraph!
ChrisDeFilippis: That's a little nuts...
#McDuck: Very Tolkien-ish
leaper1: i wanted them to be real people to me and to the other characters,
not just names on a page
Als Handlink: I saw Mr. and Mrs. Smith. That was excellent
Dman176: well, Joy, we talked a little bit about his book, my VS idea, how
he went about submitting his idea, etc.... can't think of anyhting else at the
ChrisDeFilippis: I can understand that. i felt very connected to my
leaper1: i think you need to
TinaAlsGirl5: cool cool
Dman176: I saw Mr. and Mrs. Smith too... it was pretty good
#McDuck: Harry Potter
#McDuck: <G> We talked abit about Potter. LOL
Dman176: Helen, the room working okay for you?
TinaAlsGirl5: hehehe... Harry Potter.... I started reading it at 5pm-ish last
night... stayed up all night and finished it by 5am
Dman176: just wondering
#McDuck: NOT A WORD, JOY!
TinaAlsGirl5: No, not a word
#McDuck: I'm only finished thru 13
leaper1: sok atm damon
TinaAlsGirl5: You've gotta hurry, though, 'cause I'm itching to talk to
someone I know about it
Als Handlink: You read it in one night
TinaAlsGirl5: First time I've ever done that with a book that siz
#McDuck: I will let you know as soon as I am done. I was babysitting
yesterday, so I wasn't able to start, and then I had to prep a Sunday
School lesson last night
Als Handlink: Um, I haven't even recieved my copy yet
TinaAlsGirl5: Oh, that stinks
#McDuck: That totally stinks.
#McDuck: I got mine yesterday from Barnes and Noble.com...and with free
shipping no less
Als Handlink: Just say this, where does it rank as far as how goot it is
compared to others
Als Handlink: good
TinaAlsGirl5: I'd rank it up with OOTP -- it's an emotionally charged (and
Dman176: so, Chris, how would you prefer I send my outline to you? Would
you like me to send it through Brian... I don't know how you both contacted
each other before
Als Handlink: Wow, that is my fav. so far
#McDuck: Wow. Which is your favorite of the six so far, Joy? Azkaban is
still my favorite book, but I've not finished 6 yet
#McDuck: Order of the Phoenix is right underneath it
ChrisDeFilippis: I'll ask a question: What were the best and worst aspects
of Foreknowledge? Pull no punches, please. Assuming that you can
remember it, that is.
ChrisDeFilippis: damon: send it through Brian
ChrisDeFilippis: Probably easiest for now.
#McDuck: Well, I really liked the end with Al and Ann-Marie. Can't
remember a whole lot of specifics, but his kindness and pity
Dman176: I would almost ask if you'd be interested writing a story for part
of my arc, but that's probably wishful thinking :p
Als Handlink: Chris, did you come up with the name, or did the editors
Dman176: well, I'll try to remember some deatils
#McDuck: Hi Greg
Dman176: Ah, greg joined
DeadZoneLeaper: Hi Jennie
Als Handlink: Hey Greg
TinaAlsGirl5: Hiya Greg
ChrisDeFilippis: The name was a working title until I came up with
something better. But Ginjer liked it and it stayed.
DeadZoneLeaper: Hi everyone
Dman176: I liked how you had Al go back to when Sam won the Nobel
Prize and we got to see more of LoNigro
Dman176: I would have liked to have seen more of that era in Sam's life
explored on the TV show
alsplacebartender: I liked the stuff with Sammy Jo and Al at the project a
lot too. Always interested in seeing how Sammy Jo fit into the project
ChrisDeFilippis: McDuck: Glad you liked that scene. I had finished the final
chapter days before, but the book didn't seem finished to me until I wrote
that. It was almost as if Al was sitting somwhere in my head demanding it.
#McDuck: He does that sometimes. LOL
ChrisDeFilippis: The Nobel Prize was a no-brainer. When else would
Ann-Marie hear about Sam?
DeadZoneLeaper: Sometimes it seems AL is much easier to write for than
Sam, I can hear his "voice" speaking his dialogue
Dman176: Greg has written some very interesting VS stories as well
#McDuck: Al has a lot more layers to him.
ChrisDeFilippis: And Dana LoNigro also plays a small but crucial role in the
story. So Sibby's inclusion was obvious.
Als Handlink: Yeah, I like writing things about Al
Dman176: you used the alternate ending to MI in one story, didn't you,
ChrisDeFilippis: I don't agree. Sam is a muchmore compelling character to
write in my opinion
DeadZoneLeaper: yeah, I found a way to tie that in, but I didn't make Sam
and Al go far out in the future, I made it near-future and it just seemed to fit
ChrisDeFilippis: Not Al bashing he quickly hastens to add
Dman176: heh heh
#McDuck: You've got at least two Al-coholics in here. LOL
ChrisDeFilippis: Don't flame me
Dman176: I always found it interesting that even though Sam had the
theories, he needed LoNigro to help him figure it all out logically
DeadZoneLeaper: With Sam, I will say it is a lot of fun writing about what
kind of situations you can put Sam into
ChrisDeFilippis: Al is easier in the sense that he's sort of the kitchen sink
character. If you want Sam to gain knowledge about something he has no
experience with, you just drag it out of Al's increasingly checkered past
Dman176: if you really think about it, Quantum Leap wouldn't exist without
either of the two men
#McDuck: Sam is a good situational guy, he's the boy scout.
ChrisDeFilippis: is "checkered" right?
TinaAlsGirl5: Yeah, once an Al-coholic, always an Al-coholic... :)
#McDuck: But Al has so much to him. Bravado hiding pain, for one thing.
Al's got a lot more pain than Sam does.
DeadZoneLeaper: we wont FLAG you for using that term
TinaAlsGirl5: checkered is a good word...
Dman176: oh boy, there goes Greg with his puns :p
ChrisDeFilippis: must... dodge.. puns...
#McDuck: At least he'susing good NASCAR puns this time. ;)
ChrisDeFilippis: And I don't think Al's pain is any more valid than Sam's. He
still gets to sleep in his own bed at night.
Als Handlink: Watching NASCAR right now
Dman176: to be honest, I can't remember much bad about the book... I
preferred it a lot over most of the others
#McDuck: I'm not discounting Sam's, but Al's goes all the way back to
childhood. Sam, at least, had a loving family.
Dman176: I'm one of those people who can understand that complex
time-travel conundrum type stuff
#McDuck: And Sam CHOSE To step into the accelerator, while a lot of Al's
pain happened to him out of circumstance
DeadZoneLeaper: Yeah, Damon spins our heads sometimes..;)
ChrisDeFilippis: Who keeled, were killed or beaten by their husbands
Dman176: sometimes? :p
Dman176: hello, Johi
DeadZoneLeaper: welcome Johi
Johi36: Hi :)
#McDuck: Hi Johi
DeadZoneLeaper: Chris, have you written fiction for other shows than QL?
ChrisDeFilippis: I LOVE that complex time-travel conumdrum type stuff. It's
what insipres me.
Als Handlink: Yeah, I feel bad for MJ with all the ideas Damon has for TVS
ChrisDeFilippis: Other than a couple of rejected Star Trek proposals for
Pocket Books. No.
Dman176: ok, I've got another question for you, Chris, because I have found
myself doing this a lot lately... did you do any research into how those
time-travel conundrums supposedly work? Different theories and all that?
ChrisDeFilippis: Only if I have to explain something technically.
ChrisDeFilippis: The method isn't so important compared to the drama the
act of TT creates
leaper1: i agree there
ChrisDeFilippis: I do keep up with the latest theories out of personal
leaper1: i think one of the strengths of ql is that at times the time travel is
incidental to the heart story
Dman176: I guess I'm referring to the part where they first realize that
Sam's life is endangered in the 80s
#McDuck: Absolutely. it was just a device.
#McDuck: It was all about the characters and the drama
DeadZoneLeaper: I assume it is difficult to get work published for a tv show.
A bunch of us wrote a very long involved story arc that probably could have
been as long as the Xindi arc, and I would love to have every story that
connected to it, be published into one book
Dman176: nothing changes right away... am I remmebering that correctly?
ChrisDeFilippis: Yes, the TT is incidental to the stories, but intergral to the
ChrisDeFilippis: Actually, noting that they realize. But if it was changing,
they really wouldn't know to realize it, would they? Only Ziggy was able to
sort the matter out initially, and it locked her up totally.
ChrisDeFilippis: nothing that they realize. sorry
Dman176: well, like Al noticed that McBride was replaced
ChrisDeFilippis: Yep. That's when it was already almost too late to stop.
Dman176: which I thought was a nice touch, by the way, too, with the
references to past TV episodes
ChrisDeFilippis: There were actually some complaints about the many
ChrisDeFilippis: To which I say, WHAT?!?
DeadZoneLeaper: I like references to things, continuity is a good thing
leaper1: same here
Dman176: must be from a continuity standpoint
ChrisDeFilippis: It's all you have in a tie-in series, As I said above
Dman176: some people don't like QL to be continuous in that sense, I
#McDuck: I personally liked wher ethe novels tied-in with the show directly.
Otherwise it's a separate entity and a free-for-all
Dman176: Greg and I have actually thrown in quite a few Back to the
Future references in our stories :p
ChrisDeFilippis: I don't know. The stories HAD to be origianl leaps. But it
makes little sense to write as if you're in a vacuum.
DeadZoneLeaper: I'm sure some ppl not familiar with our Virtual Seasons,
probably wouldn't like the fact that Tom has been brought back into the
fold, or that the President now knows PQL works and has someone update
him on what the project is doing
leaper1: i like 'in jokes' too - like in my recently posted story, where sam
has to notice a film showing in a cinema in 88 and its married to the mob!
DeadZoneLeaper: Dean was in that one..lol
#McDuck: Right. That's what I mean. Not every novel needed to tie=in with
an ep, but they couldn't just do whatever the heck they wanted. Must be in
line with canon.
Dman176: I kind of look at QL the same way as how BTTF works... Sam
came from the original timeline. If he kept changing along with the changes
he made, then it would sort of negate the need to change things, wouldn't
leaper1: here he goes....
ChrisDeFilippis: One of my in jokes was the way Sam signed his placard at
the Nobel ceremony, "All the Best, Sam Beckett" That's how Scott signs
most of his autographs
Dman176: ah, see, I did not know that
DeadZoneLeaper: me either
#McDuck: That's where it's helpful to have GFTW in charge. ;)
Dman176: that was a nice touch :)
Als Handlink: I thoroughly dissected everything about
Als Handlink: BTTF
leaper1: i really wanna re-read it now
leaper1: *adds to the 'to do' list
#McDuck: How many miles longisyour list now, Helen? lol
ChrisDeFilippis: For the Record: I think BTTF II was the second best TT
movie ever made.
#McDuck: What was the first?
Als Handlink: ME TOO C
ChrisDeFilippis: How can there be any question: 12 Monkeys
Dman176: I loved it too, Chris... I know a lot of fans thought it was too
ChrisDeFilippis: Hands down
Dman176: ah, I need to see that one
ChrisDeFilippis: end of discussion
Als Handlink: BTTF2 was easilly the best
leaper1: same here
DeadZoneLeaper: I had Sam get a major haircut in one of my stories so
that when he looked in the mirror, AL said he looked like a "captain"
some sci-fi show he just watched
Dman176: I've heard it was excellent
Dman176: yeah, I liked that one, Greg
leaper1: nice touch
#McDuck: You'd love it, Damon (12 Monkeys)
#McDuck: Right up your alley with the theorizing
Dman176: I thought Millennium was a good novel... not the best movie
#McDuck: Though I do have to say, I love the Bill & Ted moment about
leaving the keys
DeadZoneLeaper: Honorable mention to Planet Of The Apes, I count it as
leaper1: my friend emma wrote a story where sam leaps into harry damour
ChrisDeFilippis: You haven't seen it???!?!? EWnd this chat right now and go rent it
for pity's sake!
DeadZoneLeaper: 1968 not the remake
#McDuck: There is only ONE Planet of the Apes, and Burton's was NOT IT
leaper1: called when harry met sammy
DeadZoneLeaper: Terry Gillaim makes some good movies
Als Handlink: I liked Frequency too
#McDuck: He was a Python, wasn't he?
Dman176: yeah, Bill and Ted was good... they follow the predestination
paradox very well
ChrisDeFilippis: I thought the B&T's "keys" scene was sheer
leaper1: frequency was good
Dman176: oh yeah, that was great as well
ChrisDeFilippis: Gilliam did all the Python animations.
DeadZoneLeaper: Wyld Stallions!!
Als Handlink: It's sad, most of my students have never even heard of B&T's
alsplacebartender: be excellent to each other
DeadZoneLeaper: yeah, he occasionally showed in skits, like the Spanish
DeadZoneLeaper: he also directed Fisher King, which I thought was good
Dman176: I still have that one VS idea where Sam is talking to Dr. Mason
Crane and he's being told that he's really an actor who played the role of
Sam Beckett on acult Tv show
#McDuck: Did he? Oh that one was heartwrenching!
#McDuck: I haven't been able to bring myself to watch it again, though I
very much loved it
ChrisDeFilippis: Any last questions about the books or show? I have to get
leaper1: look forward to that one damon
Dman176: if I can ever get it done, Helen :)
leaper1: were u a fan from day one chris, or did u come to the series mid
DeadZoneLeaper: Do you still have any QL stories that you might get
Dman176: I wish I could think of more questions
Dman176: Are we still going to try and reschedule, Brian, or do we really
not need to anymore? :p
ChrisDeFilippis: Midway. My dad was watching the show one night (81/2
Months I think) and I was just hooked from there.
DeadZoneLeaper: I assume the favorire episode question was already
Dman176: no, it wasn't... good one, Greg
#McDuck: Oh....what do you think of the DVD releases with the music
ChrisDeFilippis: Other QL Stories: Only "Somewhere Between Limbo and
Lightning," posted here on Brian's site
alsplacebartender: i think this one will siffice damon, but Chris... you're
welcome to come back anytime you'd like!
DeadZoneLeaper: Leap Home is my fave
leaper1: that's on my to do list too Jen!
#McDuck: What is, Helen?
ChrisDeFilippis: My absolute favorite ep? Nuclear Family, followed closely
by Shock Theater/Leap Back
Dman176: I would definitely love to read that script you wrote, Chris
leaper1: reading somewhere between...
Dman176: the Paradox one
#McDuck: ahh gotcha
leaper1: my fave is catch a falling star
DeadZoneLeaper: hmm, need writers for your Season 12 arc, Damon?..lol
leaper1: scott sings!
#McDuck: Any question about mine? M.I.A. of course! LOL
Dman176: I'm sending him the outline, Greg ;)
DeadZoneLeaper: There are just some episodes that are excellent on so
leaper1: oh for sure
leaper1: and even the 'worst' ones had redeeming features
DeadZoneLeaper: even Blood Moon?..lol
#McDuck: Sure...Ian Buchanan!
leaper1: even miss deep south
DeadZoneLeaper: I have a hard time with that one
ChrisDeFilippis: Black on White on Fire is also a big fave.
Dman176: hey, I liked that one... probably one of the only people that DID,
DeadZoneLeaper: that is a good ep
ChrisDeFilippis: Stupidist Episode: Dreams
leaper1: oh no
ChrisDeFilippis: Most Boring: Hurricane
Als Handlink: I really liked The Curse of Ta-Hotep, but my Fav. is A leap for
Lisa and Trilogy Part 3
Dman176: really? I loved Dreams
leaper1: miss ds stupidest
ChrisDeFilippis: Most Pointless: Curse of P'Tha ho Tep
leaper1: sam would never want his sister to see him as a beauty queen!
#McDuck: I'm gonna hide, but I can't stand Trilogy
Dman176: maybe it was because of Dr. Crane.. he was creepy
DeadZoneLeaper: good to see you have potential writers for your arc,
Damon, i can focus on my NGAH project...;)
ChrisDeFilippis: And the scene with Sam and Al singing in Miss Deep
South is second only to Sam's Mr. Scrubbo spot in Future Boy. You gotta
Dman176: well, we'll see, Greg...
Dman176: yeah, Mr. Scrubbo was funny
ChrisDeFilippis: Sam speaking in the falsetto was just downright
alsplacebartender: i loved mr. scrubbo spot! I fell off the couch!
DeadZoneLeaper: i'll tell ya later, D, I put some thought to your Holly
DeadZoneLeaper: Future Boy is a good one
Dman176: ah, ok, Greg
Als Handlink: I just watched that Ep. again Yesterday
5 pm EST
ChrisDeFilippis: My other
favorite is Goodnight Dear Heart
DeadZoneLeaper: Moe Stein is John the Head Visitor Alien from V
Als Handlink: I don't know about that one Chris, It was good, but Fav.???
Dman176: I loved Lee Harvey Oswald, Shock Theater, Leap Back, and of course, Killin
ChrisDeFilippis: I feel so bad for Hilla everytime, and Sam kneeling beside the
grave is one of the best endings of an ep ever
DeadZoneLeaper: It's got a future Star Trek actor in it
#McDuck: And a future Desperate housewife
Als Handlink: I did like how he read the poem
ChrisDeFilippis: Hey, I hated Trilogy too.
ChrisDeFilippis: Some of the only work by Deborah I didn't care for
#McDuck: It was just.....major ewww factor. First he's her dad, then he's
Dman176: what did you think of the Evil Leapers, Chris?
ChrisDeFilippis: My overall assessment: boring
Als Handlink: Part 3 was excellent. The first time I saw it and they revealed
what Laura looked like under her scarf
ChrisDeFilippis: And a creepy way for Sam to get a daughter
ChrisDeFilippis: Boring for Triogy. Evil Leaper: Gimmicky
ChrisDeFilippis: But watchable in a post Doogie Houser sort of way
#McDuck: They've grown on me in time, but I wasn't fond of the concept at
all at first
Als Handlink: What about A Leap for Lisa. I loved the part where they
replaced Al as the Hologram
Dman176: I remember reading somewhere that Don really wasnt too fond of
the Evil Lepaer idea
Dman176: NBC pressured him into creating a nemesis though
leaper1: i hated it until vs! the evil leaper i mean
#McDuck: I think that's what changed my mind, too....some of the stories.
(Not just VS stories, either)
Dman176: yeah, we all added some good spins on the Evil Leapers
leaper1: and qr as well of course
Als Handlink: The second one, where Sam leaped into Arnold Watkins, I
didn't care for that one
Dman176: probably put a lot more thought into it than whatshername did...
Robin Bernheim, I think?
ChrisDeFilippis: ALfL: More gimmicky stuff, with St. John and Bingo. If they
can leap Bingo into himself at an earlier point, why can't they just leap the
visitor into Sam and bring him home?
#McDuck: Well, I wasn't referring to QR (I can't get into it). But other fics
leaper1: gd point chris
alsplacebartender: i always wondered that too
Als Handlink: yeah it is
ChrisDeFilippis: As Don said, don't look too closely at this stuff, folks
#McDuck: Yup. LOL
leaper1: must have to do with brain wave synching
Dman176: hmm... I expect some readers might find my idea a bit
ChrisDeFilippis: Another point I try to address in Foreknowledge, by the by
#McDuck: How so, Chris? <g>
Dman176: I liked A Leap for Lisa... that was another inspiration for my idea
leaper1: i have a question for u chris - if the series hadn't ended, how do u
think don would have addressed the death of dennis wolfberg?
DeadZoneLeaper: Maybe because like in Mirror Image, Sam can go home if
he wanted to, but his doubts block him. I bet if they had tried to bounce
Sam home like Bingo, Sam's subsconscious probably would have
ChrisDeFilippis: In a scene with Wietzman. I think the chief concern is that
there would be no guarantee that the Visitor wouldn't stop Leaping even if
ChrisDeFilippis: Oh yeah I forgot: Mirror Image is also one of my all time
favorites and by far the best series finale ever made.
leaper1: would gushie/gooshie have changed faces or been replaced?
DeadZoneLeaper: I give Newhart that distinction
DeadZoneLeaper: best final ep
Dman176: interesting... there are a lot of people who hated it, probably for
the sole reason that Sam never returned home
feldon23: hello everyone
ChrisDeFilippis: I think they would have probably gone with another actor
for the role.
leaper1: hi morgan
alsplacebartender: Hi Morgan, you made it!
DeadZoneLeaper: I thought the Bartender would have been a great
character to explore had the show continued
Dman176: I didn't like it at first, but over the years, I've changed my view on
DeadZoneLeaper: yeah, I hated it at first
leaper1: same here damon
feldon23: greetings Mr. DeFilippis
leaper1: hated it for ages, ignored it for ages
feldon23: MI cured me of any desire to follow QL for quite a few years.
#McDuck: Hi Morgan
Dman176: hi Morgan
ChrisDeFilippis: Dennis was good, but seen only ion like what? Three
episodes? I don't see Don retiring a character for that, especially when
Donna can go from Teri Hatcher to whoever that woman who played her
was in The Leap Back
feldon23: hi McDuck, DMan176, alsplace,. anyone I've missed...
#McDuck: Amen to that, Chris!
ChrisDeFilippis: Hi Morgan
leaper1: i tackle it in 'run for their lives'
#McDuck: I initially liked Donna, and then saw Leap Back. :-P
alsplacebartender: hi clara
#clara5: hello everyone
#McDuck: Hi Clara
Dman176: hi Clara
Johi36: Hi Clara
Dman176: VS has replaced Gooshie twice already
#clara5: O TOTALLY forgot there was a chat :-$
DeadZoneLeaper: I didnt like the person they chose for older Donna
leaper1: kill gush, but his replacement must answer to the 'nickname' while
leaper1: so sam doesnt suspect
feldon23: so unusual to hear the negativity about Donna. I liked the actress
leaper1: true damon
leaper1: once by me
#clara5: so, what did I miss?
feldon23: but I am not drawn to movies/shows/episodes based on
leaper1: nah, didnt like mimi
ChrisDeFilippis: Guess it's just a mysoginistic guy thing.
Dman176: I never really had an opinion on the older actress
ChrisDeFilippis: I misspelled that, I'm sure
DeadZoneLeaper: it's very Seinfeld petty, but Mimi's eyes bugged me for
the characetr of Donna
#McDuck: I evne typoed it lol
#McDuck: Three time!
#McDuck: There you go
feldon23: here's an OT... I wonder if in the future that creators of TV shows,
when the show is cancelled, they publish a "canon" guide with all the
backstory and history of the characters and some statements about each
to help fanfic authors continue series
leaper1: just ask damon
Dman176: lol... me?
#McDuck: More likely, someone could find the show's "Bible" and sell it
leaper1: u could ive em all the canon damon
ChrisDeFilippis: I once wrote in to request a bible for QL and was told there
leaper1: chapter and verse
DeadZoneLeaper: The Complete QL Book, or QL: A to Z worked for me
ChrisDeFilippis: wasn't one, sorry
Dman176: if you're referring to my TV show idea, I could do that someday
DeadZoneLeaper: the Sliders idea?
feldon23: DeadZone: Chunovic's book?
Dman176: no no, something completely different
Dman176: an original idea
DeadZoneLeaper: but A to Z book has a lot of detailed stuff
feldon23: DeadZone: did any chapter in that book have less than 10
ChrisDeFilippis: Sliders: the worst execution of one of the most intriguing
Dman176: I agree whoehearetedly there, Chris
leaper1: it started well but went off the rails
ChrisDeFilippis: I used A to Z a bit when writing Foreknowledge.
Dman176: it was my second favorite show next to QL
feldon23: Chris: maybe they didn't know if they wanted it to be an 80's teen
show or a serious sci-fi?
DeadZoneLeaper: The A to Z book is pretty good
ChrisDeFilippis: I don't think they knew anything beyond: we have this neat
Dman176: Sliders was meant to be a satire on real-wrold situations with
science fiction mixed in... but the knuckleheads at the wonderful Fox
network decided to make it like The X-Files
leaper1: i'm gonna have to go soon folks, tis gone 10pm here and i have
work at 7am
DeadZoneLeaper: or: What movie can we imitate this week?
ChrisDeFilippis: Any last questions? How abut from the newcomers?
alsplacebartender: understandable helen, glad you could make it!
Dman176: picked a new producer who literally said... yeah, what Greg said
leaper1: me too
#clara5: no problem Helen, see you later!
Dman176: ok, Helen, ttyl
#McDuck: chat later, Helen! nite!
DeadZoneLeaper: I need to find a Greatest American Hero A to Z or
something simialr, the bug to write a next gen of that show is really starting
to kick in
ChrisDeFilippis: Thanks for showing up, Helen. i appreciate it.
leaper1: its been great talking to you Chris, and good to 'see' all my friends
again, shame sue couldnt make it
#clara5: well, I don't really have any questions, especially since I don't
know which ones have already been asked
ChrisDeFilippis: Well i don't mind repeats this late in the game. I have
about 5 more minutes to spare
Als Handlink: Sliders really went downhill when it went to Sci-Fi. It didn't
help that Wade and the Prof. Left the show. I wouldn'teven give the last
seson thew time of day
Dman176: in other words, ask anyway, Clara :p
DeadZoneLeaper: I watched it for Kari, I won't lie..lol
DeadZoneLeaper: I remember when she was on MTv's Remote Control
ChrisDeFilippis: No pressure
Dman176: they actually fired John Rhys-Davies because he was very
outspoken about hwat the show could be doing
ChrisDeFilippis: My first Kari sighting too. Sigh...
Johi36: I don't have any questions either :)
Dman176: same here
#McDuck: JRD is awesome
DeadZoneLeaper: Not bad for a dwarf
leaper1: he's tall as treebeard!
Dman176: the 4th season had a good premise, but they didn't follow
through on it
DeadZoneLeaper: is that ENTirely acurate?
DeadZoneLeaper: sorry..the puns..the puns
Als Handlink: I did like Kari's Charecter
#McDuck: Here we go again. <g>
DeadZoneLeaper: I loike what Kari brought to the show...;)
Als Handlink: Always liked Kari
Dman176: yeah, she grew on me too, Tom
#clara5: ok, so did you have any problems about characterisation while
writing? were there any dark spots that you had to do a lot of research to
be able to write?
DeadZoneLeaper: How does a QL come to you? I always start with an
image in my head of the leap-in, then I figure out everything else
DeadZoneLeaper: QL story
Dman176: oh, I do have another question too, Chris, sorry... what's your
style when you write? How do you plot your ideas out? I find I often jump
back and forth when I'm writing
#clara5: I'm asking that because I'm having a HUGE writer's block on my
Star Wars fanfic for exactly those reasons...
DeadZoneLeaper: yeah I hate when my writing seems FORCEd
Dman176: oy... *rolls eyes* at Greg
#clara5: lol @ Greg
ChrisDeFilippis: i don't know how to answer that. Most of my ideas begin
with a premise that intrigues me, then I fill in the details from there.
Als Handlink: I am having a writers block with my current VS epp.
ChrisDeFilippis: The foreknowledge premise was: what if someone didn't
like how Sam had changed their lefe "for the better"
ChrisDeFilippis: then the story evolved from that
leaper1: one of my stories came out of a one liner from a comedian
Als Handlink: which one
DeadZoneLeaper: i find playing nit-picker helps me get thru block. I readit
as if someone new was looking at it and asking questions.. What if this
happened? Why does this need to happen?" and out of rationalizing my
ideas sometimes new ones emerge
leaper1: skin deep
ChrisDeFilippis: i usually have a pretty detailed outline before I begin, but
it's not strictly necessary
Dman176: so, you don't have a problem sitting down and writing chapter by
chapter, or do you sometimes have a really good scene you want to write
leaper1: that one had nothin but the joke, and applyin it to sam
Als Handlink: I need something to happen in the middle of my story
DeadZoneLeaper: I outlined all of my VS stories, I had them broken down
by Acts (like an episode)
leaper1: the rest came from why that should be
Dman176: for me, I get sidetracked a lot because I'm not always so good
with descriptive material
#McDuck: what was the one-liner, Helen?
Dman176: I'm impatient to get to the good stuff
DeadZoneLeaper: then I tried to figure out what would make a good "Visual
image" before the "commercial break" and then the rest would fall
#McDuck: Damon.....for Stardust I first wrote what became Chapter Three
and then went back and wrote what led up to it
#McDuck: Hey Ann Marie!
DeadZoneLeaper: Dialogue is probably my worst area."
ChrisDeFilippis: My script for PARADOX began with a scene; Sam and Al
fighting. Then wrote around that. Foreknowlede was ruthlessly plotted and
outlined before I bean. It had to be to sell it to Berkley.
#SetandDrift: Hi! Finally made it.
leaper1: if acupuncture is pins in u to heal
leaper1: and voodoo in image of u to hurt
leaper1: wot if identical twin has acupuncture?
#McDuck: I was always wondering what the joke was that led into that one
Dman176: Hi, Ann-Marie... unfortunately, I think Chris will be leaving us
Als Handlink: I just read those stories Helen. They wre very good
DeadZoneLeaper: we'd have the premise for Hellraiser V
ChrisDeFilippis: Yeah. 5:30. So ask away.
Dman176: I'm the reverse, Greg... dialogue is my best area
ChrisDeFilippis: You're not THE Ann-Marie, are you?
#SetandDrift: Ah, well. This is the earliest I could make it...
ChrisDeFilippis: I had to ask
#SetandDrift: NO! I dubbed it the evil hyphen twin. <g> I actually don't have
a hypen - it's Ann Marie
#SetandDrift: And as a devout Al fan, I was SO upset when my namesake
DeadZoneLeaper: I think I am better at action sequences than dialogue.
Heck, I use G.I. Figures to choreograph fight scenes
leaper1: i use my son!
ChrisDeFilippis: You were upset, meaning my writing evoked a reaction,
meaning I did my job. Thanks
Dman176: I use my hands to act out stuff... probably shouldn't be saying
#clara5: Greg, you'll HAVE to help me out with my story then (if you have
leaper1: hey damon whatever works
DeadZoneLeaper: for my story when Sam was a superhero impersonator, I
used Gung Ho the Marine versus Cobra Commander
#McDuck: G I Joe....not just for kids anymore....
Als Handlink: hehehehe
leaper1: sam leaps into gi joe.....
DeadZoneLeaper: probably less painful than attacking a son..lol
#SetandDrift: I enjoyed your book, yes. I just hope if anyone else uses my
name in a story, she's a GOOD person. ;-)
#clara5: well, nothing's exclusively for kids these days...
#McDuck: lol @ Ann Marie :)
DeadZoneLeaper: Sam leaps intop He-Man
DeadZoneLeaper: and Kringer can see Al
#clara5: good one Ann Marie
Dman176: yup... He-Man just came out on DVD and I feel like a little boy
Dman176: not just for kids anymore
leaper1: I have the power! oh boy!
#clara5:: what about my thing with Gargoyles... not much better
Als Handlink:: I never really got into He-Man that much
#McDuck:: <--Disney nut <g> I'm not saying a word
leaper1:: really gotta go now guys
DeadZoneLeaper:: Cant see Sam as Optimus Prime tho
#McDuck:: Bye Helen
Dman176:: ok, Helen
DeadZoneLeaper:: bye helen
leaper1:: thanks again chris
#clara5:: Jennie, I'm probably as bad as you, except maybe with the going
to disneyland/world 5 times a year, lol
DeadZoneLeaper:: Sam as Lion-O
#clara5:: oops, missed her
ChrisDeFilippis:: Looks like my time is up. Thanks to all of you for coming.
I honestly didn't think anyone would remember Foreknowledge at this point,
much less want to chat. Thaks for proving me wrong. I'll send Brian the
PARADOX script ASAP. If you have any questions, have Brian forward
them. Thanks again!
DeadZoneLeaper:: Thank you, Chris
#McDuck:: Only cuz it's closer for me! LOL
#SetandDrift:: Thank you, for the brief time I was able to chat with you.
Dman176:: and I'll be sure to forward my outline to you thru Brian, Chris
#McDuck:: Thanks for coming, Chris.
#clara5:: thank you Chris, for being here
Dman176:: I appreciate you taking the time to look at it
DeadZoneLeaper:: Don't be a stranger to the boards at Al's Place
Dman176:: come back anytime
alsplacebartender:: well chris, i just want to say thank you so much for
joining us today!
ChrisDeFilippis:: Will do. take it easy!
feldon23:: so THAT'S what that button does
#clara5:: have a nice day!
Johi36:: Thank you Chris!!!
Johi36:: Oh, I was too late
Als Handlink:: Jennie, Write a QL story that has Sam leaping into Woody
from Toy Story, in the Ice Capades or something
#McDuck:: And now the seven second lull while everyone regroups
#clara5:: so was I...
#McDuck:: Tom....Eleiece and I just finished one for VS where Sam leaps
into a guest on the Tower of Terror
#SetandDrift:: Nope, sorry, only took you 4 seconds.
#clara5:: well, I'm still wondering if Greg will help me...
DeadZoneLeaper:: whats it about?
#clara5:: Star Wars...
#clara5:: post ep 3
DeadZoneLeaper: between 3 and 4?
feldon23: the only story I see between 3 and 4 is Leia. which really wouldn't
be all that interesting IMO.
#clara5: yep... it's an alternate Universe, and I'm going to ignore a few
things that were said in ep 3 because it would ruin any chance of having
mush in my story
alsplacebartender: hey guys for those that don't know him yet, Morgan
(feldon23) has gone to great length and pains to help create our new
messageboard coming soon!
#McDuck: huzzahs for Morgan :)
feldon23: thanks :)
#clara5: yes, that you ssooooooo very much Morgan
Als Handlink: Thanks Morgan
#clara5: *hugs Morgan*
feldon23: QL fan who knows a thing or two about vBulletin and went through
the EZBoard transition myself 2 years ago.
alsplacebartender: he knows about a million things or two lol
#McDuck: vBulletin is wonderful!! My Disney MB home is on vBulletin
#McDuck: MB for messageboard, Greg, btw. ;)
feldon23: and as a graphic designer, I couldn't help but polish up the logos
on the forum just a bit. hope Brian doesn't mind :)
#clara5: anyways, Greg, if you want we could talk about it on MSN or ICQ
alsplacebartender: the images he has created are outstanding.... you guys
are gonna be impressed
#McDuck: When's the great reveal?
DeadZoneLeaper: I would be interested to some degree, right now my ideas
for my spin-off show are racking my noggin'
Als Handlink: When do we get to see it
#clara5: I can't wait to see them!!! *is all excited*
feldon23: it doesn't help that Brian's web hosting company has TWICE
pointed quantumleap-alsplace.com to some other website (or nowhere) in
the last week
#clara5: stupid web hosters... grrrrrrrr
alsplacebartender: it'll probably be either tomorrow or tuesday. I'm kinda
waiting on the DNS problem Al's Place is experiencing right now to clear
up. It'll be this week
#clara5: can't do a single thing right
Als Handlink: Are we going to notice the changes right away
#clara5: (not the person, the emotion, lol)
DeadZoneLeaper: wb D
#clara5: Welcome back!
Dman176: had some problems, sorry
DeadZoneLeaper: Eww, Eww, Mr. Kotter
TinaAlsGirl5: Oh, I'm here....
#SetandDrift: I'm sorry to pop in and then back out so fast, but my husband
has to use the computer (working on his masters degree online through
University of Maryland and has a paper due).
#clara5: anyways, it's been fun but I'm afraid I'll have to go now, it's pretty
hot and I don't feel so good after giving blood friday
TinaAlsGirl5: A friend showed up to talk about Harry Potter...
alsplacebartender: the board looks much like what we have now, except
better lol. The virtual seasons board and SBP board are both cleaned up
and look great too
#McDuck: Okay....glad to see you Ann Marie and that you got to chat ith
#SetandDrift: Jennie, I am determined to work on my story some today, so
hopefully in the next few days you'll have part 4.
#McDuck: Yay!! Can't wait.
#SetandDrift: Bye, all, have fun chatting!
#clara5: bye Ann Marie!
#McDuck: Bye. Good luck to Darin
#McDuck: Hey Eleiece
#clara5: and I'm going out too, have a nice day everyone!!!
Dman176: hi, Eleiece
#McDuck: Bye Clara. Have a good day
DeadZoneLeaper: h Eleiece
#SetandDrift: Oh, rats, and I'm leaving just as Eleiece joins... maybe we
can chat sometime soon.
Sherdran: Hi, Damon!
DeadZoneLeaper: bye clara, talk to you about those ideas sometime
Sherdran: Sounds good to me, SetandDrift!
Dman176: I'm going to have to leave in a few minutes myself
#clara5: hey Eleiece, see you later
#McDuck: It's Ann Marie, Eleiece
#McDuck: Oh, she's gone now
Sherdran: Hi, Clara, have a good evening.
Sherdran: I know. *g*
#McDuck: Oh okay, when you put her handle, I wasn't sure. :)
#McDuck: Today is the 50th Anniversay of Disneyland! :)
Als Handlink: Tony Stewart just won the NASCAR race and just climbed
into the starter stand
#McDuck: And yestreday, along with Harry Potter....I got my CD of Walt
Disney Takes You to Disneyland
#McDuck: LOL Congrats to Tony.
#McDuck: Who came in 2nd?
#McDuck: Or, more specifically, where did Junior and Mikey finish?
Als Handlink: Kurt Busch I think, Then B. Labonte
Als Handlink: Junior, I think 9th, Mikey, I'm looking
Dman176: well, everyone, it's been fun, but I need to get going for now...
this computer is being nutty
Sherdran: Sounds like you've hit the proverbial 'mother lode' of good stuff in
the last 24 hours, Jen! *g*
alsplacebartender: thanks for coming Damon! glad you were able to :)
Sherdran: Take care, Damon. :-)
#McDuck: Okay, bye Damon!
Dman176: Tom, if you want to e-mail me about your roadblock, I'll try to
help you if I can
DeadZoneLeaper: byr Damon
#McDuck: <g> Yup. 13 chapters done on Potter.
Dman176: ok, talk to you guys later
Als Handlink: Rusty, 8th. So the Miller car beat the Bud Car
#McDuck: Would've been more if I didn't have to teach Sunday School
Als Handlink: See Ya Damon
Als Handlink: Will do
#McDuck: like Rusty too, though. :)
Als Handlink: Mikey was 17th
#McDuck: Top 20 at least. :)
#McDuck: Have they said where they stand in points?
alsplacebartender: well.... i had planned on a three hour chat and it's been
just about that. i'll need to leave to grab dinner and a movie tonight but you
guys have fun and iif someone wants to keep transcribing everything after i
leave, i'll add it to the chat transcription tomorrow!
Als Handlink: He should NOT be leaving DEI
Als Handlink: Not yet
#McDuck: He is????????
#McDuck: Thanks, Brian. Have a good time!
Als Handlink: Yeah, Next season, He's out
#McDuck: Who's he switching to?
#McDuck: Have they said?
Als Handlink: Don't know
Sherdran: Have a great one, Brian! Bye.
Als Handlink: Who knows, Maybe he will end up at Penske
Als Handlink: See Ya Brian
alsplacebartender: yes, Julie wants to go eat and see Wonka tonight.... so
I am finally getting away from the computer desk I have been sitting at
every waking moment for the past few days and doing something outside
the house lol
#McDuck: Wonder if Junior will get his "old" crew chief back then?
Als Handlink: That seems to be up in the air right now
TinaAlsGirl5: Wonka rocks. You'll love it
TinaAlsGirl5: Seen it three times now, and I plan to see it several more
alsplacebartender: thanks Joy! I'll let you know what I thought!
#McDuck: I can't believe he's leaving DEI
#McDuck: :shakes head:
#McDuck: Dale Earnhardt
Als Handlink: Me Neither. That is easily the best ride he has ever been
Als Handlink: Yeah
#McDuck: Racing team
alsplacebartender: oh ok lol
Sherdran: Well, it looks like I got here just in time to wave bye-bye to
everyone, so..... I'll wave bye-bye, too. Catch y'all later!
Als Handlink: bye
#McDuck: I think I'm gonna dive back into Hogwarts
alsplacebartender: well have fun everyone! glad you made it :) see you all
#McDuck: Catch y'all later! Bye!
Als Handlink: Yeah, rub it in why don'tcha