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Staupah 04-15-2009 03:00 AM

I think, that Don Belisario began to prepear this episode as the final when The leap home episodes were issued.
Sam begins to change his close enviroment in the past. But at present time he has killed brother and unhappy sister. So randomity of the time track takes place. But the returing home is a definite action (point). So the coming randomity destroies plans formed in the past. I think that means the barny when he says about changes done by Sam. And he (Sam) came up to the non-return point, having in his mind at last to help Al. And the aim of God (barny) is to make Sam realize that the last leaping will be by his own willing (He doesn't warn him about consequences because it's naturally for God).
Why it was the non-return point? That's because Al in new reality will not deal with QL project bacause his life is successful. So in 1999 there will be no the fact of Sam's leaping.
We could have more episodes but Mirror Image is the only last episode.

NYCSciFiFan 06-03-2009 01:05 PM

Just a reminder: the series finale of Quantum Leap will air on ION Television TODAY.

NYCSciFiFan 06-05-2009 11:42 AM

This was a strange episode, but not surreal-strange, more like a "Waiting for Godot" strange. I hated "Waiting for Godot" so this episode didn't do much for me. It seemed unfinished and unrehearsed, maybe that was intentional or maybe the director was having an off day?

It was great to see all of his (male) past leap characters in one place. Wonder why they left out all of the female ones? There were no women other than Beth.

I thought it was strange that:
Sam never asks about his wife, Donna, or the Evil Leapers.
Sam being Sam, I expected him to call his parents and ask if they had had the baby, lol.
If all he wanted, more than anything, was to "go home," why didn't he?

The typo in his name on the closing titles is really annoying, lol.

My kids were so sad that "that was it."

jassian 06-06-2009 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by NYCSciFiFan (Post 53360)
It was great to see all of his (male) past leap characters in one place. Wonder why they left out all of the female ones? There were no women other than Beth.

A very interesting question. My best guess is that the setting was such that in that place women wouldn't normally frequent bars or be near the mens' work place.

Darlan 06-12-2009 05:55 AM

I really liked this final episode, but still were not happy with the ending of Sam never returning home.

I have a question about the last picture seen in this episode. There is a man holding a little child on his arms, who is he? Al?

Night Terror 06-16-2009 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlan (Post 53494)
I have a question about the last picture seen in this episode. There is a man holding a little child on his arms, who is he? Al?

The little kid is Donald P. Bellisario, creator of this show, and he is with his father. He really likes planes, doesn't he? I think he used to be a pilot.

Darlan 06-16-2009 05:42 AM

Oh,ok Thanks for clarification :)

Samantha Beckett 06-23-2009 01:23 AM

Does anybody have a screencap of the final text screen that says Sam never leaped home? I can't find it anywhere...

Samantha Beckett

Janna Galaxy 07-01-2009 05:41 PM

I don't think people want to be reminded.

julieannboo 08-12-2009 05:46 AM

watched this last night.
sad episode -very touching.
i am pleased that Sam got to put right what happened between Al and Beth.

In a way i am glad that Sam never returned home - it made it much more touching and much more to Sam's Character.

It also leaves it open for a Quantum Leap follow up.

Imagine 08-23-2009 07:15 AM

When I saw the ending the first time, I couldn't do something, I couldn't speak, I couldn't move. I was only sad and needed some minutes to realize it. But finally I liked the final ep and it was fine, that Sam could help Beth and Al. But it was a bit unfair that Al has a good life (don't misunderstand, I'm very happy for Al) but Sam never returned home, although he did so many good things. That was very sad.

quantumwonderer 07-14-2010 09:25 PM

I hated to see the show ended so abruptly! I know NBC was not happy with the Season 5 ratings and pulled it fast! So they really could not come up with the perfect ending! This was to be a two part episode concluding in the never produced season 6.

However, it was sad to see that Sam never returned home spite the happy ending for Al The episode never answered the main question of who is actually leaping Sam, but creating more questions left unanswered. The statement made by Al the bartender did not explain how Sam was leaping himself, but why he is leaping himself.

If Sam really was leaping himself, that means in his first leap when the Quantum Leap Retreval program was activated while Sam was leaped back halfway to his own time and then came back to the person and time he leaped into, it was he himself that fought the return leap. That is impossible being he had severe memory loss at the time, and did not at all even remember him leaping to get to where he was at. If you cannot remember leaping through time, then you cannot leap through time. He would of had to return home and then later re-leap into Tom Stratton when his memory returned.

Then it was Sam then who leaped an unborn baby out of its mother in one leap when Sam's host was a pregnet woman! Then of all places to leap the baby into himself who is a man and biologically cannot have a baby inside him let alone deceive the doctors in the past into seeing the baby inside Sam. That takes a lot even for a smart man like Sam to accomplish!

Then if Sam really leaped himself why did he not leap when his life was in jeopardy like when a mobster held a razor to his throat threatening to use it if he did not answer a question that was directed to him in a foriegn language he did not speak. Even when his host leaper was a cold blooded killer who was ready to be murdered by a policeman who lost his daughter by this evil person that Sam was in he did not leap!

It would mean that Sam would have supernatural powers similar to God to leap by will. Then he would of never needed Project Quantum Leap to do that. He had no access to the Project's accelarator being in the past, and no one in the future was controlling it. So it had to be someone else or something else.

I think you owe us an answer Don.

Al's the Best 03-07-2012 12:47 AM

I was nearly crying when this episode aired! Why couldn't NBC finance a tv movie now and then while Scott and Dean were young enough to do a reunion as Sam and Al! Now they won't even reprise their roles...BUMMER!

blue enigma 10-27-2012 06:27 PM

This is one of Scott Bakula's best, most emotional performances.

I love this episode. I was glued the whole way through and I love the surreal, dreamlike quality - I know some people interpret this as Sam is dreaming the leap, up until he leaps to Beth, which is an interesting interpretation. I love the focus on the friendship and that Sam finally rights that wrong for Al, I love seeing Sam in a leap where he can't directly help out and how frustrating that is for him.

As for that last black screen: this is a time travel show about changing the past, so to me saying "Sam Beckett never returned home" is no different than saying "Tom Beckett died in Vietnam" or "Maggie Dawson never won the Pulitzer", both of which were true at one point but were changed. So, to me this is also changeable, especially since it's past tense. :) If TPTB were thinking of continuing the series later or doing a movie they would need to have Sam still leaping, so they gave us an ending that was 'final' but also open to a continuation. So, that's my two cents on that. :)

MichelleD 12-10-2012 11:46 PM

I agree, the acting is great...Scott does a wonderful job here, and so does Dean. I think the main reason so many people have such a hard time with it is because the idea that he wanted to go home so badly and didn't make it is so sad. It's hard for me to watch for that reason too. The idea that it is a dream is interesting. Sigh, all T.V. shows come to an end eventually. Some just have things turn out better for the character(s) than others. But in the end, Sam took the high road and did the right thing like he always did. :)

iMonrey 08-30-2013 04:30 PM

Basically, this episode just left me baffled. I don't really have a problem with the ending revelation that Sam never returned home, which is what I think most fans objected to. I just don't really understand what DPB was trying to say here - regardless of whether this was intended to be a season finale or not.

I initially came away thinking it meant Sam was dead, and had been dead all along and made into some sort of guardian angel, but DPB has said in interviews Sam is not dead. So, I don't understand exactly what was going on here, or what it means that Sam saw all these people from previous leaps with different names and lives. Were they all leapers too? The Bar seems to be some kind of limbo or weigh station for leapers, and at the same time, an actual place where some miners were trapped and needed rescuing. We see one guy leap out but isn't replaced with someone else. The bartender tells Sam he is responsible for the leaping himself, Sam can't quite accept it, and then at the end wills himself to leap back to Beth at the precise moment he left her in MIA.

Throughout the series there is an unabashed suggestion the God Himself is leaping Sam around, which I have no problem with. But this episode seemed to go a little too far into religious allegory for my tastes, which is probably why I can't make head nor tail out of it.

Lightning McQueenie 08-30-2013 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by iMonrey (Post 60096)
Basically, this episode just left me baffled. I don't really have a problem with the ending revelation that Sam never returned home, which is what I think most fans objected to. I just don't really understand what DPB was trying to say here - regardless of whether this was intended to be a season finale or not.

I initially came away thinking it meant Sam was dead, and had been dead all along and made into some sort of guardian angel, but DPB has said in interviews Sam is not dead. So, I don't understand exactly what was going on here, or what it means that Sam saw all these people from previous leaps with different names and lives. Were they all leapers too? The Bar seems to be some kind of limbo or weigh station for leapers, and at the same time, an actual place where some miners were trapped and needed rescuing. We see one guy leap out but isn't replaced with someone else. The bartender tells Sam he is responsible for the leaping himself, Sam can't quite accept it, and then at the end wills himself to leap back to Beth at the precise moment he left her in MIA.

Throughout the series there is an unabashed suggestion the God Himself is leaping Sam around, which I have no problem with. But this episode seemed to go a little too far into religious allegory for my tastes, which is probably why I can't make head nor tail out of it.

The entire leap takes place in Sam's head. That's why nearly everyone he meets resembles someone he met in a previous leap and why nothing makes any sense. The purpose was to make Sam come to terms with the fact that he subconsciously built Project Quantum Leap with the intention of making the world a better place, to accept that this is his calling. So literally, even though he doesn't control where he goes or who he has to save, he IS leaping himself around by his choice to want to do good in the world. As for Al (hologram) being able to find Sam, well their brainwaves are linked, so it makes sense that he might be able to tap into the leap inside Sam's head, and that was crucial, as it made Sam realise that he couldn't go home while he still had a wrong to put right for Al, and from there came to the conclusion that there was always another wrong to be put right, so he just kept putting off going home.

Finally, since you mentioned God, I don't believe that Al (Bartender) actually is God, I think he's more a manifestation of part of Sam's own psyche. The Sam who leaps into the bar is Sam's Id, the one who just wants to go home. Al the Bartender is Sam's ego, making him realise that he has a job to do. Al the hologram could be thought of as Sam's superego, the one who provides the right path for Sam to take.

Graham 08-04-2015 08:38 AM

My Theory
 
When Sam leaped back into himself at the exact time that he was born his body disappeared from the waiting room in 1999. When that happened it was as if he had never existed. That's why he couldn't return.

Imagine your life is a piece of string. If you pull that string out tight, you can measure it's length. But tie the ends together and screw it up into a ball and it's harder to tell how much of a life you have. And if the two ends are tied together do you have a life at all?

If Al and Beth stayed together and lived happily ever after, did Al ever get envolved in Quantum Leap? Did Al ever really know Sam Beckett? 8o

servo75 02-25-2016 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Graham (Post 61741)
When Sam leaped back into himself at the exact time that he was born his body disappeared from the waiting room in 1999. When that happened it was as if he had never existed. That's why he couldn't return.

Imagine your life is a piece of string. If you pull that string out tight, you can measure it's length. But tie the ends together and screw it up into a ball and it's harder to tell how much of a life you have. And if the two ends are tied together do you have a life at all?

If Al and Beth stayed together and lived happily ever after, did Al ever get envolved in Quantum Leap? Did Al ever really know Sam Beckett? 8o

Well if he and Al never met, it's also quite possible that PQL never existed, which means that Sam could have never fixed their marriage, and round and round we go... :D

Besides, Sam's body disappears from the waiting room during every leap, the only difference was that since he didn't leap "into" anyone, there was nobody in the waiting room. I think it was speculated once that Sam technically does leap home for a brief instant between leaps.

servo75 02-25-2016 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by iMonrey (Post 60096)
We see one guy leap out but isn't replaced with someone else.

And neither was Sam. The rest of them had to be leapers ("Gooshie" looking different in the mirror and Stawpah saying that he needs to get the miners out "this time").

servo75 02-25-2016 05:00 PM

When Sam was sipping beer with "Ziggy", I could swear he wiped his mouth in the exact same way that he did in Moe Stein's kitchen.

TheLeaper 05-24-2016 01:38 PM

Up until that black screen tells us that Sam never went home, Sam was insisting he wanted to go home. He even cried when telling Al the bartender he wanted to go home...yet never does. Makes no sense. It's not noble on Sam's part to abandon his wife and friends after all they have sacrificed for him. I know the show was cancelled.. But that black screen was not necessary.

All three times Sam "chose" to keep leaping he was emotionally manipulated. He spoke to his dad and then suddenly leaping wasn't such a bad thing in the first episode. Al's life was in danger so he gave up his freedom again. Then fixing Al's marriage for some reason meant he had to keep leaping.

And if amnesia is the only way Sam would keep leaping, is it really his choice to keep going?

feldon30 05-24-2016 02:16 PM

The black title cards were beyond infuriating. He has a wife AND daughter in the future and he would NEVER go see them? How ridiculous.

TheLeaper 05-27-2016 10:02 PM

So Al the bartender gets Sam to remember that he invented PQL to put right what once went wrong and Sam basically says he didn't intend it to be what it ended up being (one life at a time).

I dunno but two things strike me about this. The pilot episode gives me the impression the real reason he wanted to travel through time was to talk to his dad. Second, isn't Al basically saying, "Yeah this wasn't what you had it mind but I still felt justified in sending you on missions and basically keeping you hostage"

blue enigma 05-27-2016 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLeaper (Post 62074)
Second, isn't Al basically saying, "Yeah this wasn't what you had it mind but I still felt justified in sending you on missions and basically keeping you hostage"

If we assume Al the bartender is God or G/T/F/W (I don't), and if we interpret the events of the episode at face value and as real. Another interpretation is that Sam is dreaming the entire leap, in which case the people and events he meet are part of his subconscious and Al may represent that part of Sam that makes him continue to leap/that wants to keep leaping.


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