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yes, thats the one. and The Devil didn't take over Al, it impersonated Al to trick Sam.
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Old 05-27-2006, 03:43 PM   #27
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yes, thats the one. and The Devil didn't take over Al, it impersonated Al to trick Sam.
Thanks. I didn't realize that wasn't AL. I will have to go and watch it again and find what your talking about.

without seeing what you and the others are talking about. Why, who, and what... are the "evil leapers" sent from the Devil or are they just not liking what Sam is doing. I geuss I just get why the writers ever put anthing evil to go agaist Sam.

But then I also ask a lot of questions too. Is there a place that I go and read why to the evil leapers. Thanks Julie
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without seeing what you and the others are talking about. Why, who, and what... are the "evil leapers" sent from the Devil or are they just not liking what Sam is doing. I geuss I just get why the writers ever put anthing evil to go agaist Sam.

But then I also ask a lot of questions too. Is there a place that I go and read why to the evil leapers.
As for why the "evil leapers" were introduced, I believe that was more of a request on NBC's part to give Sam a "nemesis" of sorts to complicate things. To my knowledge, Don Bellisario wasn't too keen on the idea, but reluctantly agreed. Personally, I always thought it made perfect sense: Sam is out there putting right what once went wrong, fixing people's lives; so it's only logical to assume that there are others out there putting wrong what once went right, destroying people's lives. I fell in love with the concept the instant I first saw the Season 5 promo during the summer hiatus that year.

Anyway, if you want to find out a bit more about the "evil leapers," you can go here:

http://quantumleap-alsplace.com/evil/

Or, for individual "bios" on the individual characters, these are taken directly from the Quantum Leap: A to Z book by Julie Barrett. I warn you, though, these contain SPOILERS, so read them at your own risk:











Alia: If Sam Beckett was able to travel in time, it would stand to reason that sometime another person would do the same. Perhaps it was a greater shock than a surprise when Sam encountered Alia. When they first met, Sam had leaped back into Jimmy LaMotta?s life, and Alia had become Connie. They didn?t find out about each other until they touched, which set up a magnetic convergence field allowing them to see each other. Alia told Sam that she was with a time-travel experiment, and she too suffered from Swiss cheese memory and had no control over where she went. The one thing she really wanted above all was to go home. She then tried to seduce Sam, saying that he was the only one who could understand what she was going through. Their lovemaking was interrupted by the early return of Frank, Jimmy?s older brother. While Sam was digging for his clothes, Alia ripped her slip, scratched her face, and screamed that Jimmy had tried to rape her. Zo?, her Observer, then reported that she had to kill Sam, and that doing it could get her home. Alia explained to Sam it wasn?t God that put them against each other. Sam countered by postulating that evil could only exist because of good, and if she killed him, she may no longer exist, and it would only add to the power of whatever was leaping her around. Alia has apparently killed a lot of people, but she was unable to bring herself to kill Sam, and Alia and Zo? exited distorted and screaming in pain.

When the pair met again, Alia told Sam that she had been tortured, and that the experience was worse than death. She begged Sam not to let her go through that kind of pain again, and Sam suggested that if they were to hold each other when they leaped, they might be able to go together. They did, right into the Mallard Correctional Facility for Women. In an attempt to keep Lothos, the artificial intelligence controlling her leaps, from locking on to her brain waves, Sam altered them slightly by hypnotizing her into believing she actually was the woman into whom she had leaped.

While Alia didn?t seem to be completely evil (why else would she want to be redeemed?), she did wonder why some people help other people. Apparently such behavior was either not in her background or had been conditioned out by some means.

Alia could see Zo??s Observer, Thames.

When Alia was shot by Zo?, she leaped out and Angel Jenson leaped back in, unhurt. Lothos reported that Alia was lost, and Ziggy reported to Al that she was free.


Zo?: Alia?s Observer. In some ways, she was just like Al?a clotheshorse who loved to lech after the opposite sex. After she was able to see Sam as himself, she called him a ?studly morsel? and ?sweet cheeks.? The similarity ended there, for Zo? was quite evil.

Apparently Alia and Zo? have been working for Lothos for several years. She told Alia, ?We clawed our way out of Hell to land simple assignments like home wrecking and adultery. You don?t want to live through the horror we lived through before.? Zo? told Lothos she taught Alia ?Every nuance. Every twist. Every lie. She was brilliant.? Lothos believed sending Alia out was a mistake, and that he always wanted Zo? to carry out his plan. In ?Revenge,? Zo? herself leaped. Sam shot Zo?, as Warden Meyers, and Thames screamed that she was dying. After the familiar flash, Meyers returned and he was unhurt.


Thames: Zo??s Observer enjoyed every minute of his stint as a hologram?except the last. He was a fan of James Brown and always carried a walking stick. Pronounced ?Tems? like the river in Great Britain.


Lothos: The artificial intelligence unit that controlled Alia?s assignments. There were some indications that this time-travel project was set in the future, and might have built on Dr. Beckett?s theories. The participants used terms such as ?Leaping? and ?Swiss cheese,? and the electric leap effect was essentially the same. Lothos, however, seemed to have more control than Ziggy ever did. For example, he had the power to send his leapers where he wanted, and to reward and punish. He was not pleased with Alia?s performance the first time she encountered Sam. He also had the power to pull a leaper out at any time. Their Imaging Chamber was called the Holding Chamber. When Lothos sent out a leaper, there was a forty-eight-hour window in which he or she had to get home. After that, the percentage dropped with each leap.

Lothos held conferences with staff members called ?deep input? sessions. During one with Thames, Lothos told him that sending Alia out was a mistake. It seems Lothos had some sort of master plan, but no one outside of the staff knew what it was.



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yeah i heard that the Evil Leapers were just for ratings, but i enjoyed them just the same.
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Just a small correction - it's actually the evil project's waiting room that's called the holding chamber... probably because they hold someone until the leaper leaps out and the leapee leaps in. We don't know what their imaging chamber is called.
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where did it ever mention this?
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Dman176, thank you so much. I enjoy when others are able to make things understandable. Thank for going to so much truble you too kind! but I think its odd that the wrighters would put evil (as I think I said before) in the show, but without seeing the epesoids I can only go by what is told to me. Without rememering that its a T.V show. I wounder why TGW would let evil try and kill him. I almost can't wait to see what Sam does and how he deals with it and I am shure that he still "puts right what once was wrong" Julie




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As for why the "evil leapers" were introduced, I believe that was more of a request on NBC's part to give Sam a "nemesis" of sorts to complicate things. To my knowledge, Don Bellisario wasn't too keen on the idea, but reluctantly agreed. Personally, I always thought it made perfect sense: Sam is out there putting right what once went wrong, fixing people's lives; so it's only logical to assume that there are others out there putting wrong what once went right, destroying people's lives. I fell in love with the concept the instant I first saw the Season 5 promo during the summer hiatus that year.

Anyway, if you want to find out a bit more about the "evil leapers," you can go here:

http://quantumleap-alsplace.com/evil/

Or, for individual "bios" on the individual characters, these are taken directly from the Quantum Leap: A to Z book by Julie Barrett. I warn you, though, these contain SPOILERS, so read them at your own risk:











Alia: If Sam Beckett was able to travel in time, it would stand to reason that sometime another person would do the same. Perhaps it was a greater shock than a surprise when Sam encountered Alia. When they first met, Sam had leaped back into Jimmy LaMotta’s life, and Alia had become Connie. They didn’t find out about each other until they touched, which set up a magnetic convergence field allowing them to see each other. Alia told Sam that she was with a time-travel experiment, and she too suffered from Swiss cheese memory and had no control over where she went. The one thing she really wanted above all was to go home. She then tried to seduce Sam, saying that he was the only one who could understand what she was going through. Their lovemaking was interrupted by the early return of Frank, Jimmy’s older brother. While Sam was digging for his clothes, Alia ripped her slip, scratched her face, and screamed that Jimmy had tried to rape her. Zo?, her Observer, then reported that she had to kill Sam, and that doing it could get her home. Alia explained to Sam it wasn’t God that put them against each other. Sam countered by postulating that evil could only exist because of good, and if she killed him, she may no longer exist, and it would only add to the power of whatever was leaping her around. Alia has apparently killed a lot of people, but she was unable to bring herself to kill Sam, and Alia and Zo? exited distorted and screaming in pain.

When the pair met again, Alia told Sam that she had been tortured, and that the experience was worse than death. She begged Sam not to let her go through that kind of pain again, and Sam suggested that if they were to hold each other when they leaped, they might be able to go together. They did, right into the Mallard Correctional Facility for Women. In an attempt to keep Lothos, the artificial intelligence controlling her leaps, from locking on to her brain waves, Sam altered them slightly by hypnotizing her into believing she actually was the woman into whom she had leaped.

While Alia didn’t seem to be completely evil (why else would she want to be redeemed?), she did wonder why some people help other people. Apparently such behavior was either not in her background or had been conditioned out by some means.

Alia could see Zo?’s Observer, Thames.

When Alia was shot by Zo?, she leaped out and Angel Jenson leaped back in, unhurt. Lothos reported that Alia was lost, and Ziggy reported to Al that she was free.


Zo?: Alia’s Observer. In some ways, she was just like Al—a clotheshorse who loved to lech after the opposite sex. After she was able to see Sam as himself, she called him a “studly morsel” and “sweet cheeks.” The similarity ended there, for Zo? was quite evil.

Apparently Alia and Zo? have been working for Lothos for several years. She told Alia, “We clawed our way out of Hell to land simple assignments like home wrecking and adultery. You don’t want to live through the horror we lived through before.” Zo? told Lothos she taught Alia “Every nuance. Every twist. Every lie. She was brilliant.” Lothos believed sending Alia out was a mistake, and that he always wanted Zo? to carry out his plan. In “Revenge,” Zo? herself leaped. Sam shot Zo?, as Warden Meyers, and Thames screamed that she was dying. After the familiar flash, Meyers returned and he was unhurt.


Thames: Zo?’s Observer enjoyed every minute of his stint as a hologram—except the last. He was a fan of James Brown and always carried a walking stick. Pronounced “Tems” like the river in Great Britain.


Lothos: The artificial intelligence unit that controlled Alia’s assignments. There were some indications that this time-travel project was set in the future, and might have built on Dr. Beckett’s theories. The participants used terms such as “Leaping” and “Swiss cheese,” and the electric leap effect was essentially the same. Lothos, however, seemed to have more control than Ziggy ever did. For example, he had the power to send his leapers where he wanted, and to reward and punish. He was not pleased with Alia’s performance the first time she encountered Sam. He also had the power to pull a leaper out at any time. Their Imaging Chamber was called the Holding Chamber. When Lothos sent out a leaper, there was a forty-eight-hour window in which he or she had to get home. After that, the percentage dropped with each leap.

Lothos held conferences with staff members called “deep input” sessions. During one with Thames, Lothos told him that sending Alia out was a mistake. It seems Lothos had some sort of master plan, but no one outside of the staff knew what it was.



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In Evil Leaper III [Revenge (of the evil leaper)] Zoe and Thames are *****ing about not being able to find Alia.
Zoe says "Go back and talk to the person who leapt into the Holding Chamber."
Thames: "Sorry Zoe, there's nobody in the holding chamber"
Zoe: That's Impossible!
Thames: When dealing with Quanta, nothing is impossible.
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oh, hell, i didn't even notice that before, i'll have to pay attention next time i watch that one. thanx naggindragon.
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I always thought that maybe Lothos was from the distant future, and was more advanced than Ziggy because he was more evolved in time. Maybe some ideas of PQL were leaked over generations and with the more advanced technology, Lothos could have been created. The reason that they didn't know who Sam Beckett was, is because the fact that this was never part of any information that might have been taken away from PQL. To the people of the future, PQL would be like a prehistoric version of themselves, therefore some of the minor things about PQL (such as Sam using PQL to travel in time) may have gone unnoticed.
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The only problem with Lothos being in the distant future is that Alia would be leaping outside her own lifetime. She's younger than Sam - so how could she have leapt into the Lomadas lives in DUFE or the university in ROTEL if Lothos was in the distant future?
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The reason that they didn't know who Sam Beckett was, is because the fact that this was never part of any information that might have been taken away from PQL. .
this was actually the reason that i dumped th idea that EPQL was created based on the tape from Starlight Starbright. because if it was, Zoey would have known Sam when he appeared instead of Jimmy. i even told this to my best friend when we were talking the theory over.

as for Lathos being from the far future, something in the back of my mind did stress the idea that Alia was from fearther in the future than Sam, but i have no idea why i had this though, i actully think Naggin Dragon is right.
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The only problem with Lothos being in the distant future is that Alia would be leaping outside her own lifetime. She's younger than Sam - so how could she have leapt into the Lomadas lives in DUFE or the university in ROTEL if Lothos was in the distant future?
She could if Lothos has the ability to send leapers beyond their lifetime. Assuming the Evil Project is more technologically advanced and seems to know more about how the leaping process works than PQL does, it's entirely within the realm of possibility.

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this was actually the reason that i dumped th idea that EPQL was created based on the tape from Starlight Starbright. because if it was, Zoey would have known Sam when he appeared instead of Jimmy. i even told this to my best friend when we were talking the theory over.
Well, she could have known who Sam Beckett was, but not necessarily what he looked like. Notice how almost immediately after Alia "introduced" Sam and Zo? to each other, Zo? ordered her not to say anything about them and said she had to go back and run it by Lothos. This could be interpreted to imply that Zo? and Lothos knew exactly who Sam was but hid this information from Alia.

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True, very true, but how many other leapers are there, i so was thinking that she would have just assumed.
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Here's one to bake your noodles! What if EPQL exists in the same area of spacetime as PQL?
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i always thought it was.
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In Evil Leaper III [Revenge (of the evil leaper)] Zoe and Thames are *****ing about not being able to find Alia.
Zoe says "Go back and talk to the person who leapt into the Holding Chamber."
Thames: "Sorry Zoe, there's nobody in the holding chamber"
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Thames: When dealing with Quanta, nothing is impossible.
Something just dawned on me about this. i watched this episode not too long ago and noticed this line and as i am watching Miss Deep South just now i was thinking about it and, when Thames says there is no one in the holding chamber, wouldn't that not exactly be true, because wouldn't Myers be there because hes Zoey's Host?
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That's what I was thinking when I first heard it too.

But I think he was implying that there was nobody with Alia's aura in the Holding Chamber.
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oh ok, thanks a bunch, that actually occured to me after i made the post hehe :P
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