Sam "travelling within his own lifetime".

Sherminator · 02-01-2010, 09:58 PM

Can someone confirm Sam's DOB? (The ever reliable wikipedia puts it at 08/08/1953)

I am certain that under normal conditions that Sam could only travel within his own lifetime, but the newspaper first shown in "Play It Again, Seymour" is from April 14, 1953, four months before he was born.

Is wikipedia wrong, was there special conditions for that leap, or did the writers pull a Ronald D Moore and create the "traveling within his own lifetime" rule after the 1st season.

And if anybody else has posted this question (and they most likely have), please could you link to that thread or merge this one in with it.

tina_als_girl · 02-01-2010, 11:05 PM

Yeah, 8/8/53 is his DOB.

Perhaps Bellisario considered Sam's "lifetime" to begin at conception? *shrugs*

Good catch, though.

Lightning McQueenie · 02-02-2010, 02:16 AM

Yes, his lifetime is considered to begin with conception.

"The Americanisation of Machiko" is also set in the time after conception but before birth.

markg · 05-07-2011, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Lightning McQueenie

Yes, his lifetime is considered to begin with conception.

"The Americanisation of Machiko" is also set in the time after conception but before birth.

Yet "Mirror Image" makes Sam's arrival at around the time he was born a significant point.

Stakker · 07-27-2011, 10:14 AM

In "The Last Gunfighter" he says he is 50 years younger than the 84 year old person he leapt into (when discussing his superior reflexes)...yet, that would make him mid-30s in his own time.

Although I'll grant you he could pass for mid-30s in QL, it would make his birth-date about 10 years too late at the very least, as even if the QL project was set as early as 1995, he'd have to be born in 1961, which he patently wasn't. (I think the episode in question was set in 1956)

From this I can only conclude, that I don't think the writers consider his age that important, which is surprising considering the main premise revolves around his only lifetime.

Lightning McQueenie · 08-03-2011, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by markg

Yet "Mirror Image" makes Sam's arrival at around the time he was born a significant point.

Probably so that Al would be able to find him...

QL Nut · 08-03-2011, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lightning McQueenie

Probably so that Al would be able to find him...

Great point. Could also be the Bartender's way of letting Sam finally celebrate one of his birthdays. I had the feeling that the "Mirror Image" leap was a hiatus for Sam to reflect on past leaps as well as considering future leaps, and that the Tonchy and Pete situation was perhaps Stawpah's mission, only he may have kept failing it over and over?

02-01-2010, 09:58 PM	#1
Sherminator PQL Visitor Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4	Sam "travelling within his own lifetime". Can someone confirm Sam's DOB? (The ever reliable wikipedia puts it at 08/08/1953) I am certain that under normal conditions that Sam could only travel within his own lifetime, but the newspaper first shown in "Play It Again, Seymour" is from April 14, 1953, four months before he was born. Is wikipedia wrong, was there special conditions for that leap, or did the writers pull a Ronald D Moore and create the "traveling within his own lifetime" rule after the 1st season. And if anybody else has posted this question (and they most likely have), please could you link to that thread or merge this one in with it. __________________

02-01-2010, 11:05 PM	#2
tina_als_girl PQL Security Staff Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 739	Yeah, 8/8/53 is his DOB. Perhaps Bellisario considered Sam's "lifetime" to begin at conception? shrugs Good catch, though. __________________

02-02-2010, 02:16 AM	#3
Lightning McQueenie Junior Leaper Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,043	Yes, his lifetime is considered to begin with conception. "The Americanisation of Machiko" is also set in the time after conception but before birth. __________________

07-27-2011, 10:14 AM	#5
Stakker PQL Visitor Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: London, England Posts: 16	In "The Last Gunfighter" he says he is 50 years younger than the 84 year old person he leapt into (when discussing his superior reflexes)...yet, that would make him mid-30s in his own time. Although I'll grant you he could pass for mid-30s in QL, it would make his birth-date about 10 years too late at the very least, as even if the QL project was set as early as 1995, he'd have to be born in 1961, which he patently wasn't. (I think the episode in question was set in 1956) From this I can only conclude, that I don't think the writers consider his age that important, which is surprising considering the main premise revolves around his only lifetime. __________________