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![]() LMAO! Exactly hence shy she'd literally blown a fuse and zapped Beeks across the control room.
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![]() That's how I'd go out too - taking as many people with me as I could :P hahaha
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![]() Well I just had a Fridge Brilliance moment. We couldn't really make sense of the resetting of the leap. But if we think about it - they lost two days, which is how long Sam had been there. They were redoing EXACTLY the same thing that happened at the end of the B**gieman! It makes perfect sense, since GTFW reset the leap to undo Satan's influence in the B**gieman, the same thing SHOULD happen when Satan takes the reigns again
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![]() That's exactly what I was saying my apologies that I wasn't clear and I hadn't thought to use the Boogiem*n comparison.
Though it has always been my theory that Alia's leaping is being run by Satan whether they entertain the thought or not as PQL believes God is running Sam's leaps. Zoey does make an ironic comment that they'd "clawed their way out of hell" to earn home wrecking assignments instead of murder.
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![]() I know Alia was supposedly evil and was out to counter Sam's actions but do you think that Alia genuinely has feelings for Sam or was the whole thing set up from the beginning?
Why was Zoe surprised to learn about Sam? If the Evil Leaper Project was created as a reaction to PQL, then Zoe should have known Sam was there. She did seem genuinely surprised. If Alia and Sam could see each other, why couldn't they see each others' holograms. When Zoe is trying to get Alia to shoot Sam, Sam says "don't listen to her" as if he could hear Zoe.
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![]() Interesting idea. My theory about the origins of the Evil PQL may have something to do with the extra handlink left behind in "Leap Back". Of course if the whole idea was to counter Project Quantum Leap, why did Zoe not know about Sam before that leap? Maybe Lothos knew but kept it secret.
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![]() I think that it's something Connie had been doing. Lothos could have known this and convinced Alia to do this as to not arouse suspicion. Besides, if Alia's objective was to wreck the marriage, then how would teaching Jimmy to read accomplish that?
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Even though I think Connie was teaching Jimmy to read even before Alia's arrival, I think Alia was taking it to another level on purpose, so that all the attention she is placing on Jimmy would Frank would feel neglected...
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![]() Alia actually falls for that "you kill me and you'll kill yourself" stuff?
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We see that it's successful right out of the gate in the first scene: "Great. She remembers your article, but she forgets my lunch." Then once again at the dinner table: "I am trying to help Jimmy. It takes a lot of time and a lot of effort." "Yeah, well, you're pushing him too hard." "Did you read that stuff about the space program I gave you today?" "Yeah." "Did you understand it?" "Gemini VllI had to make an emergency landing. They had a problem with their thrusters." "That's wonderful! Aren't you proud of him? All we have to do is push him a little more. He's great." "Yeah, that's right, Connie. And he nearly drove a forklift off the pier today. He could have killed himself. You know, you're pushing him too hard. You're trying to build up a false confidence." "I'm sorry. I'm just trying to help." "Just leave that to the doctor. Your job is supposed to be here taking care of the house. I mean, look at this place! It's a mess." Quote:
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Yes and not only neglecting the housework, but also neglecting Corey - she didn't give a fat rats where he was at night and Corey even said he believed that his mother didn't love him, and probably neglecting her nightly duties with Frank (if you know what I mean ![]() Quote:
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I concur that prior to crossing paths with Sam, she'd obeyed orders with the belief that there was nothing else but that doesn't indicate that she wasn't manipulated into participating in the first place. Her obedience doesn't indicate that she was alright with it, she wouldn't have ever voiced it because she didn't believe it would accomplish anything and perhaps she'd anticipated that she could be punished for having treacherous thoughts. Recall that she'd fought for the 'privilege' of doing the lighter assignments vs. murder. "We had to claw our way out of hell to land simple assignments like homewrecking and adultery!" It can be assessed that the 'we' wasn't genuine because Zoey doesn't have any objection, ruining and flushing out lives fills her with the glee of a child on Christmas morning, hence why she was the original choice as the leaper. When she ordered Alia to kill Sam the first thing out of her mouth was: I concur with the theory that their project was created directly to counter Sam which Alia and even Zoey clearly didn't know, suggesting that both of them are pawns, both manipulated in some form. I'm willing to consider that perhaps Zoey actually believed what she tried to convince Alia of regarding the way out because she herself was manipulated into believing it. I still believe that inside her, Alia did feel something genuine for Sam prior to the speech. She'd regarded him with fascination when she'd asked "do you always think about the other people?" . He'd already gotten to her by the time she was given the order to kill him because her immediate response was doubt. "Why? He hasn't tried to stop us." She just needed to have a gun put in her hand to be able to acknowledge that she was stewing over him almost the entire time which supports that she'd been conceding to her role for at least for a while.
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