I Need Copyright Approval...

NeuroMason

NeuroMason

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Hello,

I need to Contact Don Bellasario and/or somebody i can talk to about making Handlink Replicas. I can make them all i want and even trade for them however, in order to recieve cash for them i feel it would be best to at least ask Bellasario for permission. If there is anybody who can help please do! The Handlink has always been one of my Favorite Props!! I know alot of you feel the same so please help me Bring the Handlink into the hands of other fans!!! Even if you don't know how i can get a hold of Bellasario or the production company, then please feel free to at least give me some advice on how to create these without stirring up any legal problems. Thanks everybody!!


Neuro Mason8)
 
Paramount Pictures
5555 Melrose Avenue
Los Angeles
CA 90038
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Don Bellisario
c/o Belisarius Productions
Bow Bldg #204
Paramount Studios
5555 Melrose Ave.
Los Angeles, CA 90038

Mr. Bellisario's addresses. I'm afraid I can't help you with advice, however.
 
I believe the show is property of Universal Studios, not Don Bellisario. This is just a guess, but I doubt Universal would grant permission to make handlinks--if they did, they would want an astronomical amount of money for the right to manufacture them.

You're probably better off just keeping a low profile and selling a few of the handlinks privately.
 
Snish said:
I believe the show is property of Universal Studios, not Don Bellisario. This is just a guess, but I doubt Universal would grant permission to make handlinks--if they did, they would want an astronomical amount of money for the right to manufacture them.

You're probably better off just keeping a low profile and selling a few of the handlinks privately.
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I agree because Universal is a cold hearted company judging by the quality of the DVDs anyway since they refused to let go of a cent to pay for the good music and songs and put hardly any special features. It seems like people had a enough trouble convincing them to release the show on DVD let alone your request.

If you are that set on trying this though I suggest selling a few strictly by email to people you know. And I mean people who already have your email address and you feel you can trust; don't be giving it out and advertising what you are doing. Like Snish said you would need to keep this business on the down low.
 
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you all have a really good point... humm... well, its just sad that people can't have one if they want one. Im just gonna go on ebay and buy a bunch of quantum leap t-shirts or something and sale them for somewhere around 400 dollars... then i'll just give my replica away for free :)
 
So, a $400 T-shirt with a free handlink? You're a master at making people think they have a fantastic bargain. A fool such as myself would make the T shirt look like a free product, and the time and effort $400.

I'm not putting you down, don't worry. I've gained +1 skill in trade. Be proud. You're making me into a crafty bloke.

Although I guess everyone is right. Universal do own the copyright, and would demand an arm and a leg for production.

If I were you, I'd stick with your idea, but if anyone in America is anything like anyone over here, they'd kill you for selling a T shirt at $400. What I've learned to do for anything like this, is, sell the first few at about $150 (covering the price of the shirt and handlink so people think they have a bargain), then every week, increase the price by %15 until you finally reach $400.

Apologies if the idea seems a little unrealistic.

Also, is there any chance of you putting some of the handlink replicas on Amazon.com? I'd pay for the shipping to Europe and everything.
If so, don't stick them up on Amazon yet, just in case I decide against purchasing a replica (however excellent they are, over here in England, we're being taxed to death by the Government, so I'd also think about saving my money for a time I really require it).
 
lol true.. i could do that... its just that the 400 dollar t-shirt thing would keep me out of trouble... The idea is, as long as people arent paying me for the handlink... The handlink would have to be "free" as it appears in writing. There are plenty of people on ebay whom are doing that. I was on there a few minutes ago and theres a guy that has a listing for a "Spiderman/ Venom Action figure" for 1000.00 and if you buy the action figure, you get a "venom" Custom Costume for free!!! see, as long as the person isnt paying for the costume, then theres nothing wrong.. but we all know what were really getting.. lol
 
SamBeckett94 said:
So, a $400 T-shirt with a free handlink? You're a master at making people think they have a fantastic bargain. A fool such as myself would make the T shirt look like a free product, and the time and effort $400.

I'm not putting you down, don't worry. I've gained +1 skill in trade. Be proud. You're making me into a crafty bloke.

Although I guess everyone is right. Universal do own the copyright, and would demand an arm and a leg for production.

If I were you, I'd stick with your idea, but if anyone in America is anything like anyone over here, they'd kill you for selling a T shirt at $400. What I've learned to do for anything like this, is, sell the first few at about $150 (covering the price of the shirt and handlink so people think they have a bargain), then every week, increase the price by %15 until you finally reach $400.

Apologies if the idea seems a little unrealistic.

Also, is there any chance of you putting some of the handlink replicas on Amazon.com? I'd pay for the shipping to Europe and everything.
If so, don't stick them up on Amazon yet, just in case I decide against purchasing a replica (however excellent they are, over here in England, we're being taxed to death by the Government, so I'd also think about saving my money for a time I really require it).
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OK why the heck would a t-shirt be $400? The ones around here that I buy are $25 max. What kind of t-shirt is this to be worth an arm and a leg?
 
He's saying he'll list the T-shirt for $400 and throw in the handlink for free, which covers his arse, but really the $400 is going towards to cost of the handlink and the t-shirt for free.
 
Oh, I understand now but thats unreasonable for a t-shirt you need a cover up item thats much more worth that. No one will make that purchase if they think they are paying that rediculous price is for the t-shirt. Thats also a scam because its a dishonest and sleezy way of making the sale. Its also still risking being found out especially the way you have it figured out because $400 for a t-shirt is beyond unrealistic at least in America I don't know how other countrys work. I'm sorry but I would not suggest this method, I would go with my idea from my first post. Its your decision though as I am not involved in this.
 
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NeuroMason, I'm going to full heartily wish you luck on getting the copyright permission. I just when through a wait of over a month to find out a yes or no on copyright permission. It turned out in the end who I thought held the copyright no longer owned it. Easy no guess bet about who owns the copyright on the handlink prop. But you might want to do some side research just encase.

...Odd ball on this copyright bit, Universal owns part of the copyright I was asking about :\ .
 
Sam Beckett Fan said:
Ah ok, Sorry you never got the approval.
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Don't be sorry, it's not your fault. However it is the fault of information not up to date on who owns the copyright with content posted online. I just wish that it didn't take a month for Wizards of the Coast to tell me they didn't have it any more.
 
systemcat said:
Don't be sorry, it's not your fault. However it is the fault of information not up to date on who owns the copyright with content posted online. I just wish that it didn't take a month for Wizards of the Coast to tell me they didn't have it any more.
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True people need to update that kind of information or not makes guesses if that was the case.
 
Sam Beckett Fan said:
True people need to update that kind of information or not makes guesses if that was the case.
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In more than one place I'd read Wizards of the Coast ( TSR Games ) held the copyright. The lawyer I was speaking with on the phone when this whole thing ended said they'd given up the copyright a few years back. He said at a guess the Nowlan family were probably the current copyright holders. But since he didn't know this fact for sure I can't give updated information to the Wiki Buck Rogers page.
 
asearcher said:
You might be able to offer it but not as a Quantum Leap handlink. It's the association with QL, Al, Ziggy, and all of that that gets one into hot water. If someone were to call this something COMPLETELY different with NO association to any intellectual property (copywrite, trademark, patent) then there is the possibility of sales.

Look at the costumes for Halloween as an example. There may be "space cadet" costumes that look earilly familiar to ST fans. BUT it will NEVER be an exact duplicate. The exact duplicate (or so close that it becomes obvious that is what you're doing) is what gets you into trouble without licensing fees. Course, that's also what a lot of fans want.

It's a tricky system to work through.
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Thats a good suggestion Helen but thats near an impossible trick for the handlink because its a very unique gadget. There is really nothing he could pull off passing it off as. That is unless he designed it slightly differently and said it was a fancy calculater. But I doubt he would opt for that since he seems to want it to somehow remain a QL product to appeal to QL fans. Othereise he would not be asking for ways to get copyright permission.
 
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I got that. Trust me, I'm not blind to what the point is in this thread. I don't appreciate the implication that I had to have the issues explained to me.

What I was getting at is the issue with licensing. As has been stated time and time again throughout this thread...the chances of getting QL licensing privledges at a cost effective level are thin and none. This was just a suggestion of HOW it MIGHT be done.

As to it being 'unique,' well, hate to say it but those ST costumes are pretty unique as well. There's no mistaking 'what' the cheap knock offs are trying to portray. That's the whole point...getting something that looks ENOUGH like something.

It's also the reason why people who really WANT an 'authentic' usually end up making things themselves (including ST uniforms...I've seen some that are spot on...incredibly detailed.) It's pretty much impossible to purchase the things. You can always hire someone to do it, I guess, but then it's a one on one transaction and TPTB (intellectual property wise) are unlikely to mind too much about that. Unlikely being the key word.
 
asearcher said:
I got that. Trust me, I'm not blind to what the point is in this thread. I don't appreciate the implication that I had to have the issues explained to me.

What I was getting at is the issue with licensing. As has been stated time and time again throughout this thread...the chances of getting QL licensing privledges at a cost effective level are thin and none. This was just a suggestion of HOW it MIGHT be done.

As to it being 'unique,' well, hate to say it but those ST costumes are pretty unique as well. There's no mistaking 'what' the cheap knock offs are trying to portray. That's the whole point...getting something that looks ENOUGH like something.

It's also the reason why people who really WANT an 'authentic' usually end up making things themselves (including ST uniforms...I've seen some that are spot on...incredibly detailed.) It's pretty much impossible to purchase the things. You can always hire someone to do it, I guess, but then it's a one on one transaction and TPTB (intellectual property wise) are unlikely to mind too much about that. Unlikely being the key word.
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Sorry you misread me; I did not intended offense. I was not at all trying to indicate that you did not know what you were talking about. I was only offering my view of the idea although I guess I must have misread you in turn. I guess I still don't understand then. So he sells the handlinks without calling them handlinks is what you are saying? If so how does that change anything? It sounds like a scam to me. Again I could still be understanding you wrong so please take none of this personally.
 
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They would have to be somewhat OFF of what QL had. If an EXACT duplicate...it could be shown that is what it was. However, if different enough (colors in different places, different shapes perhaps) then the product could be called a 'Sci Fi computer interface.'

The main thing is (besides being somewhat different)...it couldn't refer to QL, Ziggy, PH Computer, Al, Sam, Gooshie, or ANYTHING QL connected.

NOW...if it became HUGHLY sucessful ($ coming out of everywhere)...the company COULD start a lawsuit...after all, McDonald's tried to sue a restaurant in Scotland (that had been there for over 100 years) because it was called (you guessed it) McDonalds. They didn't win, mind you, but the lawsuit was filed none the less.

So...as long as this doesn't set one up for retirement...one is probably safe from lawsuits if 1) not an exact duplicate 2) called something else and 3) not associated in ANY way with QL.

But then, you might be defeating your own purpose.
 
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asearcher said:
They would have to be somewhat OFF of what QL had. If an EXACT duplicate...it could be shown that is what it was. However, if different enough (colors in different places, different shapes perhaps) then the product could be called a 'Sci Fi computer interface.'

The main thing is (besides being somewhat different)...it couldn't refer to QL, Ziggy, PH Computer, Al, Sam, Gooshie, or ANYTHING QL connected.

NOW...if it became HUGHLY sucessful ($ coming out of everywhere)...the company COULD start a lawsuit...after all, McDonald's tried to sue a restaurant in Scotland (that had been there for over 100 years) because it was called (you guessed it) McDonalds. They didn't win, mind you, but the lawsuit was filed none the less.

So...as long as this doesn't set one up for retirement...one is probably safe from lawsuits if 1) not an exact duplicate 2) called something else and 3) not associated in ANY way with QL.

But then, you might be defeating your own purpose.
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Oh ok I see what you are saying now. He changes its appearence slightly and passes if off as merely a sci-fi gadget. And he could still get in trouble but its loads safer. Ok. Thank you for the explination and sorry again for the misunderstanding.
 
I really don't like the word "scam" used above.

If Bellisario owned QL then it would be one thing, but Universal is a different story. My suggestion to NeuroMason is to make it a limited collectible type of thing. The T-shirt is a good idea. The most important thing is to protect yourself from litigation.

I have also thought of building my own handlink and gave up since I cannot source the materials and get them cut properly (despite having a friend in the business).

Paramount is a lot of things, but they were very wise in one regard. Anyone can make Star Trek-based videos including the original theme music, costume designs, etc. as long as they are not trying to make money. I don't know about props though.
 
My suggestions are not in the form of a scam, just to make that clear. Why do you think that so many things that are 'knock offs' get into the marketplace? It's obvious what they are trying to portray.

During my coursework for my M.B.A. I had to take classes on Intellectual Property (IP). Part of the whole ball of wax is the concept of how close to something can another thing be and not cross IP lines. As I said, the handlink would not be able to be an exact replica. If it was, then it would certainly be an IP violation. If it's too close then a court might find that closeness to be a IP violation. The same with the name. If there is ANY absolute association by name (i.e. Imaging Chamber handlink, gummy bear handlink,) then a court would likely find the item in IP violation. Finally no association with QL can be made in advertising the item (e.g. character names, show names, logos, or anything else.) If it was advertised with a QL focus, then the again, a court could find an IP violoation. All of these things would make advertising and selling a little tricky to the demographic it is designed for, but there you go.

Even with doing all of this stuff, TPTB who hold the IP for the device could STILL come after someone and probably would if the person was making significant money on the item. A lawsuit doesn't have to be airtight to be filed. And sometimes, the cost of fighting something that you know the underdog will win is just not worth it. So, no matter what, even this type of activity (which again is NOT a scam, it's a tried and true marketing technique) can be problematic for the seller.

As to the T'Shirt Idea, again, if the collectibles are exact duplicates, that in itself is an IP violation,whether the collectible is being 'given away' or not. Everytime someone makes an exact duplicate of something protected by IP laws (even for personal use) by definition they are stepping on those same IP laws whether someone is making money or not. Now...most companies do not swoop down on the unsuspecting fan who made them. Paramount, for instance, has realized that by allowing Trek fandom to thrive within reason, it actually generates continued revenue for them. So, an occasional one on one sale is usally going to go under the radar of the company holding the IP rights. However, if they get wind of it, again, they could request the person to 'cease and desist' selling the product or face a lawsuit.

So...I'm really sorry that this might be a sucky situation but that's the reality of it. It's part of the reason that few people go this route and why so little is out there.
 
feldon30 said:
I really don't like the word "scam" used above.

If Bellisario owned QL then it would be one thing, but Universal is a different story. My suggestion to NeuroMason is to make it a limited collectible type of thing. The T-shirt is a good idea. The most important thing is to protect yourself from litigation.

I have also thought of building my own handlink and gave up since I cannot source the materials and get them cut properly (despite having a friend in the business).

Paramount is a lot of things, but they were very wise in one regard. Anyone can make Star Trek-based videos including the original theme music, costume designs, etc. as long as they are not trying to make money. I don't know about props though.
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I am sorry for using a word you disliked, but I stil believe the t-shirt idea is "the disliked word". No one is going to buy a t-shirt for $400 or something like that. And it IS techniqually tricking people into buying the handlink by buying the shirt when the handlink is really what they are paying for. Again sorry but I am entitiled to my opinion. I like Helen's idea better of altering the appearence and passing it off as just a sci-fi controller.
 
I really don't think there should be any problem in selling one of these things on eBay, as long as you clearly state that it is a homemade replica. (And give a detailed and accurate description of everything it does and/or doesn't do, so that potential buyers will know exactly what they'll be getting.) It's also the most ideal place to sell something like that, I would think. There have been other replica handlinks sold on eBay before, and to the best of my knowledge none of the sellers had a problem with copyrights.
 
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Even a 'homemade replica' is, by definition, a IP violation. Now...a one time (maybe twice) shot at selling one? Okay, TPTB probably wouldn't make a big deal over it. But starting a cottage industry selling them (like multiple times for serious money,) well, that's another kettle of fish altogether. It truly depends on that...how much and how often (although, there are some that go after ANY and ALL IP violations cause they have deep pockets and they know that a simple warning is generally all it takes.) Those that own the IP rights are NOT just going to let someone do that.

Don't get me wrong...I'm not saying that there isn't a market for the product, just that it's good to know how far you're stepping in IP laws and what the potential consequences COULD be.
 
asearcher said:
Even a 'homemade replica' is, by definition, a IP violation. Now...a one time (maybe twice) shot at selling one? Okay, TPTB probably wouldn't make a big deal over it. But starting a cottage industry selling them (like multiple times for serious money,) well, that's another kettle of fish altogether. It truly depends on that...how much and how often (although, there are some that go after ANY and ALL IP violations cause they have deep pockets and they know that a simple warning is generally all it takes.) Those that own the IP rights are NOT just going to let someone do that.
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In regards to the amount of these things being sold, to the best of my knowledge, over the years there's really only been a handful of handlink replicas sold on eBay (or any other high profile site, which does not include private sellers), so the handlink would seem to fit right into this categeory, Helen. This is not to mention the fact that out of this handful of sales (and of course I could be wrong, but I even feel confident enough to say there's been less than 20 replicas sold over the years [publically, that is]); and at least a few of them were actual props from the show, which sold for a couple of thousand dollars, if I remember correctly. So, while this situation isn't necessarily a one-time deal, I think it's still rare enough (at least in terms of profits) of a prop to sink below the radar, so to speak. Now, given NBC Universal's history, I'm not entirely sure they'd be bright enough (or care enough) to be one of those companies that would go after "any and all" violations. Again, of course I could be wrong as it's just my personal opinion, so please take it with a grain of salt.
 
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They are in violation if it in anyway referenced Quantum Leap. The simple fact is, Universal owns Quantum Leap and all that's associated with it. To use anything Quantum Leap related that in any way generates a profit (or not - ie fan fiction) is a violation of Intellectual Propery rights, plain and simple.

That Universal hasn't done anything in the past doesn't mean they wouldn't in the future. In the past it could have flown under their radar and they had no knowledge of it. The next time around, though, they could catch notice and issue a cease and desist order or file a lawsuit. No matter what anyone thinks, what it comes down to is that Quantum Leap is owned by Universal and they can choose to assert their rights in any way the law provides.
 
I can pretty much guarantee you that Universal has or will see this thread. I have first-hand knowledge that they know of this site, have in some cases helped me a little, and have also given me limits when I asked.

Some of the stars do visit here on occasion - I know Deborah Pratt and others like to pop in from time to time.

While I don't think anyone will care if you make a handlink for someone, charging too much for it could be a bad thing for you. Just be careful.
 
jmoniz said:
To use anything Quantum Leap related that in any way generates a profit (or not - ie fan fiction) is a violation of Intellectual Propery rights, plain and simple.
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But how can fanfiction be illegal with places like Fanfic.net out there?
 
Fan fiction technically violates Intellectual Property because it takes characters and situations that are owned by someone else and are then used, without permission, by another entity. Simply, it's copyrighted material that is being used without the consent of the copyright holder.

Most times the copyright holder will turn a blind eye to the existence of fanfiction. There are time when a "cease and desist" order will be given.

The simple fact exists that you cannot legally take something that someone else owns and do what you will with it - whether or not the intention is there to make a profit. The owner of those rights is legally protected and does have means available to them through the court system to put a stop to their property being used without their consent.
 
jmoniz said:
Fan fiction technically violates Intellectual Property because it takes characters and situations that are owned by someone else and are then used, without permission, by another entity. Simply, it's copyrighted material that is being used without the consent of the copyright holder.

Most times the copyright holder will turn a blind eye to the existence of fanfiction. There are time when a "cease and desist" order will be given.

The simple fact exists that you cannot legally take something that someone else owns and do what you will with it - whether or not the intention is there to make a profit. The owner of those rights is legally protected and does have means available to them through the court system to put a stop to their property being used without their consent.
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OK I see what you mean, thanks for explaining.
 
jmoniz said:
Fan fiction technically violates Intellectual Property because it takes characters and situations that are owned by someone else and are then used, without permission, by another entity. Simply, it's copyrighted material that is being used without the consent of the copyright holder.

Most times the copyright holder will turn a blind eye to the existence of fanfiction. There are time when a "cease and desist" order will be given.

The simple fact exists that you cannot legally take something that someone else owns and do what you will with it - whether or not the intention is there to make a profit. The owner of those rights is legally protected and does have means available to them through the court system to put a stop to their property being used without their consent.
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Doesn't this apply to The Virtual Seasons on this very site?
 
It applies to any fan fiction. Unless the copyright holder has granted permission for the use of its intellectual propery, the use of it is a copyright infringement. The only time that wouldn't be so is if something has passed into the public domain. It'll be many years, in fact decades, before the copyright on Quantum Leap would pass from Universal to the public domain and that's assuming that at some point in time Universal chooses not to renew their copyright.
 
jmoniz said:
Most times the copyright holder will turn a blind eye to the existence of fanfiction. There are time when a "cease and desist" order will be given.
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I want to point out that I don't feel that I'm directing NBC Universal's attention to this as they have already been aware of this site and its contents for years. I guess this is just a case of NBCU choosing not to exercise their rights as holders of the copyright...
 
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I guess this is just a case of NBCU choosing not to exercise their rights as holders of the copyright...
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I think that's the case with every studio, and it may be leading to some confusion. Fan fiction is so readily available and so public that people think it must be legal. There seems to be an unwritten understanding that no one will bother the fans as long as they're not making any money from it. Those who publish zines are probably lucky to break even--and if it didn't stay that way, the studios could go after them.

So I guess the distinction is that if someone is selling a prop like a reproduction handlink for hundreds of dollars, it's more likely to attract attention because of the high price.
 
Sam Beckett Fan said:
I am sorry for using a word you disliked, but I stil believe the t-shirt idea is "the disliked word". No one is going to buy a t-shirt for $400 or something like that. And it IS techniqually tricking people into buying the handlink by buying the shirt when the handlink is really what they are paying for. Again sorry but I am entitiled to my opinion. I like Helen's idea better of altering the appearence and passing it off as just a sci-fi controller.
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Unfortunately nobody will buy something if it looks too different from the real thing.

I'm trying to think of ways for him to make something which is in demand without getting sued back to the stone age. There would be no secret to the buyer that he or she is paying a price to get both items. If someone looks at the price and the explanation of what they are getting and still feel "ripped off" then I am not sure what to say to that.

Unfortunately there is no inexpensive way to make a handlink. Acrylic is EXPENSIVE. Tinted acrylic is even more expensive. Cutting it and polishing it is complicated. Gluing it together without it cracking or getting cloudy is a mess. Buying bright miniature LEDs is expensive. Installing them and making a circuit which also has sound capabilities requires soldering and electrical knowledge beyond mine. It sounds like it takes about 10 hours to make each one of these, maybe more.

The choices are A) Give up since Universal will never produce their own prop nor will they ever license one and B) Try to stay just this side of the law.

If I doubted for a second that he is doing this for his love of the show but instead for profit, then I would not be defending him and trying to help him.

Again this is just my opinion speaking as a very occasional poster here and one who has not contributed as much to the community as I wish I had.
 
The choices are A) Give up since Universal will never produce their own prop nor will they ever license one and B) Try to stay just this side of the law.
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Hmm...

How about 'advertising' that he has made these replicas, at great personal expense, and rather than 'taking orders' for a fixed sum of cash, he just asks for a show of interest.

Then take the figures to Universal and say 'Hey, I have all these people interested in getting their hands on a replica QL handlink. I've done the market research for you - there's a market out there. How about you produce an official one now I've proved there is interest, or if you like, you can commission ME to do it for you since I've already produced a prototype!'

Well, one can always dream of happy endings... :p
 
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Don't get me wrong...I'd love to have him create really good replicas. It's not a question of that...rather what I've said is simply pointing out the reality cause the truth is, you step on IP laws, you take a risk at being 'sued back to the stone age.' That's just the reality of the situation.

I understand that things are expensive and that the love of the show is the motivation. Again...this is just trying to interject the reality. Would we LOVE to be able to do things we want to do? Sure. Is it always possible? Nope.

Regardless of HOW he does this (if he does this) it's his choice. He just needs to know what the potential consequences are before going down the whatever road he chooses.
 
feldon30 said:
Unfortunately nobody will buy something if it looks too different from the real thing.

I'm trying to think of ways for him to make something which is in demand without getting sued back to the stone age. There would be no secret to the buyer that he or she is paying a price to get both items. If someone looks at the price and the explanation of what they are getting and still feel "ripped off" then I am not sure what to say to that.

Unfortunately there is no inexpensive way to make a handlink. Acrylic is EXPENSIVE. Tinted acrylic is even more expensive. Cutting it and polishing it is complicated. Gluing it together without it cracking or getting cloudy is a mess. Buying bright miniature LEDs is expensive. Installing them and making a circuit which also has sound capabilities requires soldering and electrical knowledge beyond mine. It sounds like it takes about 10 hours to make each one of these, maybe more.

The choices are A) Give up since Universal will never produce their own prop nor will they ever license one and B) Try to stay just this side of the law.

If I doubted for a second that he is doing this for his love of the show but instead for profit, then I would not be defending him and trying to help him.

Again this is just my opinion speaking as a very occasional poster here and one who has not contributed as much to the community as I wish I had.
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He doesn't have to make it look drastically different, definitely change the colors and maybe change the position of the area in which its curved to fit in your hand. Just something small. I don't really know for sure, it was Helen's idea first, I am just agreeing with it. Cuz universal will nevr crack, judging by the quality of the QL DVDs they are stubborn and care little about the fans of their shows.
 
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