Admiral Al Calavicci

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Okay, it doesn't look like the Al thread is coming back :sniff sniff: so I thought I'd create a placeholder for it.

I don't even remember what aspect of his character we'd been discussing last time, so I'll put this question out there:

What about Al (either as seen in the episodes in action during a Leap or aspects of his backstory as revealed during a Leap) do you find the most poignant?

I'll post later with my response.
 
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I'm always just so impressed with Al's commitment to Sam through everything......going from MIA to The Leap Home must have been hard for Al to keep a friendship going, when Sam was acting selfish and childish....then to do the complete 180 in Leap Home: Vietnam.....I think the combination of those three episodes define Al's character for me.

at least I think that had to do with the question :nut
 
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Yeah I agree the events of the Leap Home happening immediately after MIA would have been most hurtful to Al.

I also think that when Sam leapt into Al to save Lisa, Al wasting so much time talking to himself led to Sam not saving Lisa also would have hurt him a lot.
 
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Great thoughts...both of you!

My thoughts....I guess I'd have to choose the final moments in M.I.A.--when we realize this supposedly cavalier womanizing loose cannon of a man actually endured so much and to this day loved Beth with every fibre of his being.
 
agreed

I definitely agree on that one! During the dance, I am in a continuous feeling of cringing/crying because I can see the immense emotional pain there.

In LH part 1 in the cornfield ("I think it's damn fair") is also a sad but memorable moment. I love that line, because it's a jolt to Sam, but it's something that Al needed to say, and probably wanted to say earlier in the leap when Sam started acting childish.
 
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Casanova and Calavicci

I don't know why.....
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...... but this article just made me think of Al.

"Love Secrets from Casanova"

http://msn.match.com/msn/article.aspx?articleid=4157&TrackingID=516311&BannerID=544658>1=6736
 
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Time for another discussion point

All right....far too silent here again....

Let's open the floor for discussion. I'll stay fairly superficial this time since I required such deep delving on the last question.

Outfits....which of Al's outfits (BESIDES the dress whites) is your favorite?


For me....if I had to choose one and only one....I think it would be the turqoise jacket with the dark slacks he wore in Play Ball. (that's today's choice, anyway) <g>

Next?
 
To answer both questions. Al's character really apealed to me through everything he did. His faithfulness to Sam, when really he should have kicked Sam's but for being an idiot. (some genius. LOL) Also his passion. He's been through so much himself, he's endured so much hardship growing older that it gave him back bone and made him really passionate. He was able to teach Sam a lot. Sam really seemed ignorant to a lot of things that Al had lived through. We all know that in real life things aren't black and white as much we would like for it to be that simple. But Al lived through a whole grey area and was able to pass on his wisdom and experiences to Sam.

As for his outfits... I love that hats he always wheres and the casual suits... he was spiffy and I liked it... didn't like the shoulder pads though... they have to go... lol And I did LOVE his navy whites.. I had to add that.. hehe
 
Al looks good in any thing he wears!

I don't know that there is any thing that Al could wear and not look good in:angel. But if I have to pick I'd say his outfit he wear in Disco Inferno I just loved it!

About the other Question: I feel that Al's way of dealing with Sam is Al's way of showing just how much Sam means to Al. Today I watched Honeymoon Express. Al stood up for Sam and project QL. He was willing to go to bat for him. Seems to me that Al thinks of him as a Son and it shows though out the Seasons. Sam and Al have to put up with each other, because as I seen to day Al is all Sam has. I don't even want to try and know what that must feel like. But I think Al does and that is way he is faithful to Sam. Hey I love the both of them!:sup

Julie
 
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As for what I like best about Al, I always loved the loyalty Al had to Sam. He always, always, placed Sam's welfare over his own. For instance, allowing Sam to save his brother Rather that being Saved from his POW days early.

Just think, If Sam had saved the POW's, Al would have been repatriated five years earlier. Five years earlier, Maybe Beth would've still been waiting. After all, I don't think it was ever stated when Beth had Al declared dead and remarried.

Then there was Kill'in Time. Al went after a known killer, knowing that Leon Stiles had a gun. He went after him to ensure that he would be taken alive so that Sam wouldn't be killed in the past.

Also, as for his outfits, I never really have paid much attention to particular outfits. I just laughed at what I saw him wear and that was the end of it. That being said, I do really like the leather jacket that he wore in Kill'in Time while he was going after Stiles
 
New Question: Which Ex?

Great insights, everyone!!

Okay, here's another topic for discussion:

OTHER than Beth---which of Al's ex-wives would you be most curious to see a reunion with? (Pre-Mirror Image, obviously)

For me, I think it would have to be Ruthie. He seems to think back on her with the most fondness of the four exes (for obvious reasons I'm excluding Beth, whom we know he never ever got over), and provides the most extensive details about her.

But maybe your favorite ex-wife is a different one.....who would you like to see Al meet up with again and why?
 
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McDuck said:
Great insights, everyone!!

Okay, here's another topic for discussion:

OTHER than Beth---which of Al's ex-wives would you be most curious to see a reunion with? (Pre-Mirror Image, obviously)

For me, I think it would have to be Ruthie. He seems to think back on her with the most fondness of the four exes (for obvious reasons I'm excluding Beth, whom we know he never ever got over), and provides the most extensive details about her.

But maybe your favorite ex-wife is a different one.....who would you like to see Al meet up with again and why?
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As you well know, Jennie ;) Ruthie is my favorite of Al's other ex-wives, and I have engineered a reunion for them, which began in "High Hopes" the second of my 5 pre MI stories, and is now at the face-face stage in story 4 - "Snake in the Grass". These stories - shameless plugosity - can be found at www.fanfiction.net. "Snake" will be posted as soon as it is finished.
 
McDuck said:
Okay, it doesn't look like the Al thread is coming back :sniff sniff: so I thought I'd create a placeholder for it.

I don't even remember what aspect of his character we'd been discussing last time, so I'll put this question out there:

What about Al (either as seen in the episodes in action during a Leap or aspects of his backstory as revealed during a Leap) do you find the most poignant?

I'll post later with my response.
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all i know is that al is my favorite:hurray: :wavey
 
Okay, Im going to answer both questions so here you go..

Thoughts on Al: I think under all thoughs perverted thoughts and sexual yernings Albert Calavicci is a mature and loving man. But it tears at my heart to even imagine what it would be like to go through the heartaches he has, and to feel his ever growing need to pay back sam after the 5 seasons of QL and the 1st (virtual) season on this website, he owes Sam Beth, Trudy, and his youngest daughter Christa.

Al's Outfits: Wow! What a thought! I think it glows with personality and pure unfashionability to dress! But being in love with Al (which I am indeed) I think it is the cutest thing in the world! *Especialy his adorable "Fadoras" (or as I call them "Pimp Hats")!:hat

:dreaming ,
*Al'sChick*
 
I just have to say I love Al and I love Sam. I can't wait for the next season. Al looks soooooo Good in his white Navy out fit! Oh man I just love it!
 
Thoughts on Al: I think under all thoughs perverted thoughts and sexual yernings Albert Calavicci is a mature and loving man. But it tears at my heart to even imagine what it would be like to go through the heartaches he has, and to feel his ever growing need to pay back sam after the 5 seasons of QL and the 1st (virtual) season on this website, he owes Sam Beth, Trudy, and his youngest daughter Christa.
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Did Sam save Trudy in a Virtual Episode?


Which was the ex-wife who turned Al into a vegeterian because she would cut up his steak at restaurants?


I always found Al's connection with retarded people (because of Trudy) heart-wrenching. "We're NOT gonna lose Jimmy!"


Does anyone think there were leaps in between MIA and the Leap Home? Just as there were in between The Leap Back (where Al talks about Sam needing to fix up the leapee with a waitress to raise "his" daughter) and PlayBall?
 
Yeah, Trudy gets saved in I'll be Home For Christmas Parts 1 and 2.

I don't know which wife it was, but I like t think that there were no leaps between MIA and The Leap Home. Just the fact that Al makes a personal sacrifice and Lets Sam save his brother after everything that he refused to do just recently, It shows how true of a friend is to Sam
 
leaper1 said:
As you well know, Jennie ;) Ruthie is my favorite of Al's other ex-wives.
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I didn't know that Al's gave descriptions of all his ex-wifes. I always woundered if the gal that he talk to on the side of the road might have been his 2nd or 3rd wife? (before they were married) I guess I need to go and listen a bit closer.
 
jmellissa said:
I didn't know that Al's gave descriptions of all his ex-wifes. I always woundered if the gal that he talk to on the side of the road might have been his 2nd or 3rd wife? (before they were married) I guess I need to go and listen a bit closer.
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In Genesis? It says in the credits that it was Tina, but I (and others) think that it was just a one-night stand with a girl of the same name. Since Tina and Al met for the first time in a casino in Vegas. Then again, they could just have been doing "pick up a stranger" foreplay, who knows?

Samantha Beckett
 
Let's see... What do I like best about Al? Well, even when I was nine years old and his dirty comments went over my head, he still made me laugh, so his humor's a big part. But it's his loyalty and friendship to Sam that gets to me. Al doesn't seem like an easy person to win over - he's lost so many people close to him that he probably keeps most people at a distance out of fear of being hurt from losing another. And yet, somehow, Sam won him over, believing in him when he no longer even believed in himself, and their friendship fascinates me.

On a lighter note, I also get a kick out of Al's fear of the supernatural. I mean, he's this big bad admiral who was an astronaut, and he's terrified of dead bodies and ghosts and vampires...

Favorite outfit? The uniform. What can I say; the man looks good in a uniform. And the black leather jacket in Killin' Time.

As for the wife I'd like to know most about, that'd be Maxine. His comments in A Hunting We Will Go made me curious about this woman. And I feel bad for her, for being accused of cheating when she didn't.
 
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Let's see... What do I like best about Al? Well, even when I was nine years old and his dirty comments went over my head, he still made me laugh, so his humor's a big part. But it's his loyalty and friendship to Sam that gets to me. Al doesn't seem like an easy person to win over - he's lost so many people close to him that he probably keeps most people at a distance out of fear of being hurt from losing another. And yet, somehow, Sam won him over, believing in him when he no longer even believed in himself, and their friendship fascinates me.
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I'm going to plug Jennie's story "Stardust" on the Prequels page of the VS. A lot of her story is how Sam breaks down Al's emotional walls, and its soooo fantasically good. Go check it out.

I'd have to second (or is it "fifth" by now?) the mention of Al's dress whites. I am a sucker for a uniform.

Samantha Beckett
 
Thanks, I'll have to check that out! It can go on my long list of QL things I need to read (right up there with practically all of the Virtual Seasons.) I've always been curious about their relationship; they don't seem like they'd be compatable, and yet, they get along so well.
 
you know, not that this is important, but i am watching Double Identity now and i am noticing that this may be the solitary only episode in which Al wears shorts. i just kinda found that interesting.
 
Samantha Beckett said:
I'm going to plug Jennie's story "Stardust" on the Prequels page of the VS. A lot of her story is how Sam breaks down Al's emotional walls, and its soooo fantasically good. Go check it out.

I'd have to second (or is it "fifth" by now?) the mention of Al's dress whites. I am a sucker for a uniform.

Samantha Beckett
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Where is this alleged story? I see no story with the title "Stardust"...
 
LunarCrystal said:
Where is this alleged story? I see no story with the title "Stardust"...
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Stardust is not part of the Virtual Seasons as such - it is a PREQUEL set in the days of the Star Bright Project mentioned in "Star crossed" when Donna was working with them.

There is a link to it on the Virtual Seasons page, if you click on the Alternate Universe button, and then go to Prequels.
http://www.quantumleap-alsplace.com/virtualseasons/main/acepisodes.html

Jennie is unparalleled at writing Al-centric stories. You really should check this one out.
 
Going back to the orginal question
What about Al (either as seen in the episodes in action during a Leap or aspects of his backstory as revealed during a Leap) do you find the most poignant?
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I agree with what a lot of you have been saying, but what really strikes me is the side we see of Al when he refers to Trudy. He puts on this image but talking about her can break so many walls for him.
 
What about Al (either as seen in the episodes in action during a Leap or aspects of his backstory as revealed during a Leap) do you find the most poignant?
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For me, it would be his interaction with Teresa, the four year old in Another Mother. Pre-MI, he's this gruff, salty Navy guy, and yet he's just so sweet to the little girl, teaching her about dinosaurs, and so proud when she can name them.

As for outfits, a couple times in the 4th season he wore this sort of salmon-colored suit with cut-outs on the lapels. I always thought that would make a nice skirt suit for me for church. (heh.)

OTHER than Beth---which of Al's ex-wives would you be most curious to see a reunion with?
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Maxine, definitely. I'm really curious about that "mint flavored toes" trick.

Slightly off-topic: I would love to see both Al and Sam in their Navy dress whites spliced onto the same frame (Al in The Leap Home: Vietnam and Sam in A Leap for Lisa). I'd probably need a cigarette after that.
 
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Maxine, definitely. I'm really curious about that "mint flavored toes" trick.

Slightly off-topic: I would love to see both Al and Sam in their Navy dress whites spliced onto the same frame (Al in The Leap Home: Vietnam and Sam in A Leap for Lisa). I'd probably need a cigarette after that.
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I made these for you. ^.^

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/lunarcrystal07/QL_dresswhites1.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e299/lunarcrystal07/QL_dresswhites2.jpg
 
Cool! :) The only thing missing is Tom Selleck as Magnum for the dress whites triumvirate! <g>
 
LunarCrystal: Thank you! It's only 9:00 a.m. on a Monday where I am, and I'm already having a terrible week (like, close my office door and cry kind of terrible). You have just made me feel so much better. Thank you so much! You rock.
 
TortureXChick said:
HEY PPL
I WAS JUST WONDERING IF IT WAS JUST ME BUT DOES ANYONE ELSE FIND AL ATTRACTIVE AND I DONT JUST MEAN A LITTLE BIT BUT LIKE TOTALY HOT:drool
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OMG! I totally agree! My friends all think Im a freak but I just LOVE Al!!!! I mean hints the name and signature!:dreaming He's absoulutly SEXY! And I mean its not all about he's looks, its the way he talks (+ all the perverted remarks ;) Teehee!) and the way he just... IS! LoL! sorry, Im in LOVE!

*Al'sChick*
 
Hey, LunarCrystal? Thanks! You and leaper1 get the Making Right What Once Went Wrong Award for the week. Ziggy is very proud.
 
bluedana said:
Hey, LunarCrystal? Thanks! You and leaper1 get the Making Right What Once Went Wrong Award for the week. Ziggy is very proud.
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Awww gosh bluedana - I know what you're referring to but honestly I didn't hardly do nothing. Entirely my pleasure my dear, and I certainly don't deserve an award for it, but thanks anyway - of all the awards it is possible to get, that one probably means the most!!!
 
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*Al'sChick* said:
OMG! I totally agree! My friends all think Im a freak but I just LOVE Al!!!! I mean hints the name and signature!:dreaming He's absoulutly SEXY! And I mean its not all about he's looks, its the way he talks (+ all the perverted remarks ;) Teehee!) and the way he just... IS! LoL! sorry, Im in LOVE!

*Al'sChick*
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i totally agree
there's something about al that's sooooooooooo attractive
 
I'm glad everyone is so pleased. I do the graphic thing to pass the time, sometimes - in between reading, making dinner, and roleplaying ^.^

To the person who made the "Al is sexy hot" comment. *clears her throat* I have to agree. But it's not so much a physical hotness, though he has a lot of that too. Dean's face has a very handsome, attractive quality. Dark, rugged and always so bloody expressive. He can go from anguished to playful to serious in less than two seconds.

The most attractive thing about Al as a character is the charisma and charm. The wit and candor, the way he holds himself up and conducts himself. His humor, lightheartedness, and his never ending loyalty. Dean Stockwell played him very well.

And those are my two cents.

By the way, is anyone going to write a proper biography of the Admiral to go along with Dr. Beckett's nifty bio? (complete with picture, even).
 
Biographies and VS

Here's the Sam one:
http://quantumleap-alsplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=298

You can indeed read the VS episodes from the start, and there is a printer friendly version.
I have been doing the same thing, I've read all of Season 6 now, and have kept up to date from Season 10 onward (when I started contributing), but I still have a whole batch inbetween to catch up on.

http://www.quantumleap-alsplace.com/virtualseasons/season6/601p.html

This should take you to the printable version of the first episode.

http://www.quantumleap-alsplace.com/virtualseasons/main/main.html

From the main page you can go into the archives and find any episode you choose.

Enjoy, there are some incredible stories here.
 
LunarCrystal said:
By the way, is anyone going to write a proper biography of the Admiral to go along with Dr. Beckett's nifty bio? (complete with picture, even).
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Actually, there used to be a bunch of bios in this section that Brian originally posted and stickied (for all essential PQL members), but most of them got destroyed after the ezboard crash last year. For whatever reasons, none of us have really had the time to try and recreate them. However, as you can see in the Virtual Seasons section, MJ has posted the character profiles that I created last year of all of the major characters (both original series and new "virtual" additions).

Speaking of which, I plan on updating the character profiles for TVS, Quantum Retribution, and The Starbright Project, as well as the Recommended Reading List for TVS sometime soon (most likely after Mike and I finish writing our next 2-part story).

EDIT: Forgot to mention...we can't take full credit for the bios. MJ took what she felt was the most essential and important information about Sam and Al from their entries in the Quantum Leap: A to Z book by Julie Barrett. The actual full A to Z entries for both characters are at least a dozen or so pages! EACH!! :hair
 
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Sorry its taken so long...but I must say.

I am so glad that you know what your doing. people like you make it easey from people like me to the "meat" of QL.

:bow:dreaming :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :bow:dreaming

I send a really big.....THANK YOU!!!


For all of you that help make this the best QL site on the web!!! I can't wait to read the updated bios.

Julie
 
If this is were we talk about Al, i dont know about anyone else but i cried in MIA. it was so sad. This is the one women that he ever truelly loved. i'm not saying that he never loved the others but he never stoped loving Beth and she gave up on him. I never really understood why Sam just didnt ask her to wait to begin with. But the one that upset me the most was the epp were Sam leaped into someone in the navy i think it might have been Al. He had to save him before a time limit, but it ran out and Al was replace. so sad lucky it wasnt for long. i love every thing bout Al
 
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*Al'sChick* said:
OMG! I totally agree! My friends all think Im a freak but I just LOVE Al!!!! I mean hints the name and signature!:dreaming He's absoulutly SEXY! And I mean its not all about he's looks, its the way he talks (+ all the perverted remarks ;) Teehee!) and the way he just... IS! LoL! sorry, Im in LOVE!

*Al'sChick*
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yeah i totaly agree, i think it's that deep voice and the lil twinkle in his eye. totaly fell for Al in M.I.A - sooo sweet. All my friends also think im weird for having pictures of him by my pc... im a sassie now coz of stockwell in quantum leap :)

- Tess
 
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*Al'sChick* said:
OMG! I totally agree! My friends all think Im a freak but I just LOVE Al!!!! I mean hints the name and signature!:dreaming He's absoulutly SEXY! And I mean its not all about he's looks, its the way he talks (+ all the perverted remarks ;) Teehee!) and the way he just... IS! LoL! sorry, Im in LOVE!

*Al'sChick*
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Hehe, there is something about him isn't there? But i'm still not sure exactly what it is...
 
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